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Oprah Asked This Ex-Megachurch Pastor When Christianity Will Embrace Gay Relationships and his answe
The Blaze ^ | Feb. 17, 2015 | Billy Hallowell

Posted on 02/18/2015 5:26:10 AM PST by Gamecock

Full Title: Oprah Asked This Ex-Megachurch Pastor When Christianity Will Embrace Gay Relationships — and His Answer Seemed to Take Her By Surprise

Former megachurch pastor Rob Bell told TV host Oprah Winfrey that he believes Christian churches will become even more irrelevant if they fail to embrace gay relationships and that he sees the Christian umbrella becoming more favorable of homosexuality in the very near future.

When Winfrey asked when the church will come on board with same-sex relationships, Bell, the former pastor of Mars Hill Bible Church in Grandville, Michigan, said that he believes that the time is “close” and that “we’re just moments away from the church accepting it,” according to the Christian Post.

“I think culture is already there and the church will continue to be even more irrelevant when it quotes letters from 2,000 years ago as their best defense, when you have in front of you flesh-and-blood people who are your brothers and sisters, and aunts and uncles, and co-workers and neighbors, and they love each other and just want to go through life with someone,” Bell said on OWN’s “Super Soul Sunday.”

Winfrey, who seemed somewhat surprised by this response, indicated that she has spoken with pastors who hold a very different view.

“You sound really progressive to me,” she said, with Bell’s wife, Kristen, chiming in to note that, while some churches are moving forward to embrace same-sex relationships, others are “regressing” and digging their heels in.

Bell and his wife appeared on the show to discuss their new book, “The ZimZum of Love: A New Way of Understanding Marriage.” The former preacher has a history of stirring theological controversy.


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When will the church embrace homosexuality? The same time it embraces adultery, fornication and bestiality. But there is this “pesky” little thing called the Bible that would get in the way(esp the book of Romans).


41 posted on 02/18/2015 7:56:50 AM PST by ClarenceThomasfan (My dream ticket is Cruz/Rubio 2016)
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To: AppyPappy

Our children are the ones whose hearts are being turned into stone. I think it is time to train them like John Conner in the Terminator films.


42 posted on 02/18/2015 8:02:09 AM PST by huldah1776
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To: Catsrus
I have lost total respect for Carrie Underwood, who agrees with same-sex marriage. She belongs, apparently, to a liberal church in Tennessee.

That would be GracePointe Church in Franklin, TN. They now welcome same sex couples and individuals into positions of membership and even leadership roles.

BTW, it is reported that the membership and finances have dropped by 50% or more since they embraced this apostasy.

43 posted on 02/18/2015 8:07:10 AM PST by Marathoner (What are we waiting for? Where are the Articles of Impeachment?)
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To: manc; Gamecock

This morning I envisioned the anti-Christ and false prophet conning the Muslims into believing the beast is god but just now realized how easy it will be for him to deceive the world.


44 posted on 02/18/2015 8:07:14 AM PST by huldah1776
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To: Gamecock
... flesh-and-blood people who are your brothers and sisters, and aunts and uncles, and co-workers and neighbors, and they love each other and just want to go through life with someone ...

WRONG, a lie. That is not what "they" want and it is not what "they" are asking for.

What they want is to use the power of government for force everyone else to accommodate them. What they want is to use the power of government to force schools, businesses, communities, the military, churches, landlords, adoption agencies, etc. etc. etc., to treat homosexual couples the same as heterosexual couples.

What these homosexuals want is to use the power of government to PUNISH free people for exercising their God-given right to peacefully and civilly discriminate against open homosexuality in their schools, workplaces, and communities.

If all "they" wanted was "to go through life with someone," then the TRUTH is that they could do so easily and peacefully. The truth is that what they want is for the government to punish anyone who peacefully, civilly tells open homosexuals to either keep it to themselves or take it somewhere else.

This guy LIED to Oprah, and Oprah is LYING to herself.

45 posted on 02/18/2015 8:58:27 AM PST by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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To: huldah1776

Yes, I fear for my young sons; they will grow up in a world where homosexual behavior and marriage are holy acts of worship. For them, it will be HARD to swim against that tide, and I pray that God would enable them to stand when all the world’s evil, lawless and wicked forces are aligned against them.


46 posted on 02/18/2015 9:08:39 AM PST by Arkansas Toothpick
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To: Gamecock

By “church” I assume he means his “quasi-intentional spiritual community,” and not an actual church of which he is no longer a part?


47 posted on 02/18/2015 9:15:36 AM PST by RansomOttawa (tm)
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To: Gamecock

“”when it quotes letters from 2,000 years ago as their best defense,””

Well for crying out loud!!! What a stupid statement.

The only reason oprah would have him on was so she could ask him that question knowing full well how he’d answer it. Who on earth are the people who watch her show anyway? The same mentality as those who voted for you know who sitting in the WH!!!!


48 posted on 02/18/2015 9:50:07 AM PST by Thank You Rush
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To: Finny

“”If all “they” wanted was “to go through life with someone,” then the TRUTH is that they could do so easily and peacefully””

Your reply is excellent. It’s all so true.

Never did understand their claims. Did you ever hear of anyone who was prohibited from visiting A LOVED ONE in the hospital because they were homosexual? That’s what THEY claimed. Did you ever hear of someone not being allowed to name who they wanted as a beneficiary in their will because they were homosexual? That’s also what THEY claimed.

Why is it the GOOD never get as loud and demanding as the EVIL parts of society?

AND WHY do I end each post with the question WHY? I don’t know but everything is a mystery to me today...


49 posted on 02/18/2015 9:55:55 AM PST by Thank You Rush
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To: Gamecock
Bell and his wife appeared on the show to discuss their new book, “The ZimZum of Love: A New Way of Understanding Marriage.”

LOL.

The former preacher has a history of stirring theological controversy.

A "drama prone individual" whose 15 minutes of fame are long past.

50 posted on 02/18/2015 9:58:03 AM PST by Lee N. Field ("And if you are Christ's, then you are Abraham's offspring, heirs according to promise" Gal 3:29)
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To: Thank You Rush
I know, it just fries me -- it's linguistic deceit to frame the issue in terms of "rights," as if this is about bequeathing or protecting rights. What it's really about is denying the right of free people to civilly, peacefully decide for themselves which individuals they want to deal with in their daily lives, and which people they want to avoid.

Homosexuals have exactly the same rights as everyone else when it comes to protection against violence, murder, fraud, theft, assault, etc.

Gay "rights" isn't about protecting or preserving rights. It's all and only about removing rights of heterosexuals.

51 posted on 02/18/2015 10:22:56 AM PST by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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To: Arkansas Toothpick

Yes, I fear for my young sons; they will grow up in a world where homosexual behavior and marriage are holy acts of worship. For them, it will be HARD to swim against that tide, and I pray that God would enable them to stand when all the world’s evil, lawless and wicked forces are aligned against them.


Your post is spot on.

I pray this prayer for ALL of our youth. Lord, please hear our prayers!


52 posted on 02/18/2015 10:30:31 AM PST by Jane Long ("And when thou saidst, Seek ye my face; my heart said unto thee, Thy face, LORD, will I seek")
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To: Gamecock

Isn’t this the same Ron Bell/There is no Hell?


53 posted on 02/18/2015 10:31:30 AM PST by Jane Long ("And when thou saidst, Seek ye my face; my heart said unto thee, Thy face, LORD, will I seek")
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Isn’t this the same Ron Bell/There is no Hell?

Yep, same guy. He's a dandy.

54 posted on 02/18/2015 10:34:20 AM PST by Marathoner (What are we waiting for? Where are the Articles of Impeachment?)
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To: Jane Long
One and the same. For some of his previous antics documented on FR click here.
55 posted on 02/18/2015 10:39:16 AM PST by Gamecock (Joel Osteen is a minister of the Gospel like Captain Crunch is a Naval line officer.)
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To: Jane Long
Isn’t this the same Ron Bell/There is no Hell?

Rob Bell. Yeah.

BTW, this is a good parody of him and his ilk: Robbed Hell C.A.S.T Pearls Presents

Uploaded on Apr 6, 2011 Do we really believe that the path to eternal life is narrow? So narrow that not even atheist hippy pop stars will make it in? Don your shallow thinking cap and come wander some contours of meaning in this parody of Rob Bell's Love Wins book trailer.

56 posted on 02/18/2015 5:59:07 PM PST by Lee N. Field ("And if you are Christ's, then you are Abraham's offspring, heirs according to promise" Gal 3:29)
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To: Aleya2Fairlie

I’m sorry to here that, but here in Central Texas there are still plenty of Church’s that condemn all sin to include homosexuality.


57 posted on 02/18/2015 6:38:18 PM PST by mrobisr
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To: mrobisr

If ISIS could just harpoon the “Oprah” and cage and burn her, they would take over the world easy.


58 posted on 02/18/2015 6:41:31 PM PST by Rome2000 (SMASH THE CPUSA)
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To: Rome2000

LOL


59 posted on 02/18/2015 7:31:28 PM PST by mrobisr
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To: AppyPappy
“I think culture is already there and the church will continue to be even more irrelevant when it quotes letters from 2,000 years ago as their best defense...,

Wow....just wow. But it's not really new.

It goes back to Genesis....did God really say.....?

60 posted on 03/17/2015 9:35:42 AM PDT by ealgeone
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