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To: HossB86

Just so we’re all on the same page:
969 “This motherhood of Mary in the order of grace continues uninterruptedly from the consent which she loyally gave at the Annunciation and which she sustained without wavering beneath the cross, until the eternal fulfillment of all the elect. Taken up to heaven she did not lay aside this saving office but by her manifold intercession continues to bring us the gifts of eternal salvation. . . . Therefore the Blessed Virgin is invoked in the Church under the titles of Advocate, Helper, Benefactress, and Mediatrix.”

The next paragraph is important...
970 “Mary’s function as mother of men in no way obscures or diminishes this unique mediation of Christ, but rather shows its power. But the Blessed Virgin’s salutary influence on men . . . flows forth from the superabundance of the merits of Christ, rests on his mediation, depends entirely on it, and draws all its power from it.” “No creature could ever be counted along with the Incarnate Word and Redeemer; but just as the priesthood of Christ is shared in various ways both by his ministers and the faithful, and as the one goodness of God is radiated in different ways among his creatures, so also the unique mediation of the Redeemer does not exclude but rather gives rise to a manifold cooperation which is but a sharing in this one source.”

Ellipses in original text.

Therefore there is no opposition between the CCC and the Holy Scriptures, diametric or otherwise.

In this way it is said that we mediate salvation to one another as we share the Gospel. Catch that? The RCC teaches that “No creature could ever be counted along with the Incarnate Word and Redeemer”. Our salvation comes from Christ fullstop. Nevertheless, SOMEONE has to print those Bibles that take such an unholy thumping from some people, God doesn’t print them Himself, so those printers are mediating salvation because it is coming through them.


134 posted on 02/14/2015 6:01:22 PM PST by Legatus (Either way, we're screwed.)
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To: Legatus
Nevertheless, SOMEONE has to print those Bibles that take such an unholy thumping from some people, God doesn’t print them Himself, so those printers are mediating salvation because it is coming through them.

Is this an effort at sarcasm? Or irony? Or humor?

Or do you believe what you posted is really true?
136 posted on 02/14/2015 6:04:36 PM PST by Resettozero
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To: Legatus

Still waiting for your answer. Paragraphs before or after mean nothing.

969 calls her ‘Mediatrix’. Christ, by his own word, and scripture inspired in Paul, state Christ alone is the mediator between God and man.

It’s a simple question... Who is right? God or the Roman Catholic Cult?

Here... Let me simplify it for you:

Pick one..

A) God
B) Roman Catholic Cult

And yes... It really is that simple.

Hoss


140 posted on 02/14/2015 6:08:25 PM PST by HossB86 (Christ, and Him alone.)
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To: Legatus
969 “This motherhood of Mary in the order of grace continues uninterruptedly from the consent which she loyally gave at the Annunciation and which she sustained without wavering beneath the cross, until the eternal fulfillment of all the elect. Taken up to heaven she did not lay aside this saving office but by her manifold intercession continues to bring us the gifts of eternal salvation. . . . Therefore the Blessed Virgin is invoked in the Church under the titles of Advocate, Helper, Benefactress, and Mediatrix.”

Sorry, Mary does not bring us anything at this point in history.

There is zero proof she was taken up to Heaven.

The Bible notes Jesus is our intercessor...no mention of Mary.

The Bible notes The Holy Spirit is our Helper and Advocate....no mention of Mary.

Therefore there is no opposition between the CCC and the Holy Scriptures, diametric or otherwise.

I think we just proved otherwise.

141 posted on 02/14/2015 6:08:38 PM PST by ealgeone
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To: Legatus
Taken up to heaven she did not lay aside this saving office but by her manifold intercession continues to bring us the gifts of eternal salvation. .

Mighty bold talk for a one-eyed fatman!

222 posted on 02/15/2015 4:03:56 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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