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To: Elsie
Like the CCC?

Can we positively quote from THAT and have it be unchallenged by FR Catholics?

It would be helpful when responding to my posts to another to stick more closely to the point I'm discussing with that poster. You invariably rip something I've said out of context and run it in some other direction.

That said, you can quote the CCC. In many cases, I'd prefer that someone start there as to what Catholic teaching is, rather than "one time, a Catholic told me . . ." Though your spin on what the CCC says may need be corrected.

The only thing that tends to come up is the "no salvation outside the church" piece, which I've already addressed.

472 posted on 02/18/2015 5:59:38 PM PST by CpnHook
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To: CpnHook
I'd prefer that someone start there as to what Catholic teaching is, rather than "one time, a Catholic told me . . ." Though your spin on what the CCC says may need be corrected.

1. Catholics say the darndest things...

2. It's hard to 'spin' a "quote". If you feel it's out of context (like we hear SO many times in these threads) then merely post it again IT context and show the 'meaning' you feel was destroyed.

Be proactive; not retro.

474 posted on 02/19/2015 4:48:15 AM PST by Elsie
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To: CpnHook; Elsie
That said, you can quote the CCC. In many cases, I'd prefer that someone start there as to what Catholic teaching is, rather than "one time, a Catholic told me . . ." Though your spin on what the CCC says may need be corrected.

The only thing that tends to come up is the "no salvation outside the church" piece, which I've already addressed.

It's the Catholic church ITSELF which states that there is no salvation outside of it and it's written right into Catholic's very own Catechism of the Catholic church.

http://www.vatican.va/archive/ENG0015/__P29.HTM

"Outside the Church there is no salvation"

846 How are we to understand this affirmation, often repeated by the Church Fathers?335 Re-formulated positively, it means that all salvation comes from Christ the Head through the Church which is his Body:

Basing itself on Scripture and Tradition, the Council teaches that the Church, a pilgrim now on earth, is necessary for salvation: the one Christ is the mediator and the way of salvation; he is present to us in his body which is the Church. He himself explicitly asserted the necessity of faith and Baptism, and thereby affirmed at the same time the necessity of the Church which men enter through Baptism as through a door. Hence they could not be saved who, knowing that the Catholic Church was founded as necessary by God through Christ, would refuse either to enter it or to remain in it.336

Your argument is not with us who points out what your CCC says, but with the Roman Catholic Church and the CCC it wrote.

475 posted on 02/19/2015 8:39:14 AM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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