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To: paladinan

Thank you for laying out a point-by-point rebuttal of my post to you. I thought you had been r-u-n-n-o-f-t and am pleased you weren’t.

The only response I can make is I hope you are aware of the devices you use when lecturing and that they are not all necessarily honest methods of persuasion. Proven techniques of putting down someone who is in disagreement do not truthful and frank discussions make; just discussions.

Another way of stating this is...I’m unconvinced you are convinced of the veracity of all you are posting. But you have been excellent at presenting yourself as one who does.

Tell-tale signs. Little ones. Controlling ones. Prayer should reveal these to you. You’ll know.

I hope you are not too heavily invested in Roman Catholicism to see the Truth of this matter. Are you?

BTW, I was wrong to think you would understand my Navajo reference. There’s more Cherokee in me than any other native American.


575 posted on 02/16/2015 12:04:27 PM PST by Resettozero
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To: Resettozero; Religion Moderator

I hope you *will* give me at least some benefit of the doubt, when I don’t reply immediately to one of your posts. (Given that numerous people have written numerous posts to me—I think of Daniel1212, to whom I haven’t even written back once, due to time limitations—I hope you can understand.)

I have to tell you, FRiend... with all due respect, your post reeks of arrogance. You assume, for whatever specious reason, that I’m not sincere... and your only evidence is a mish-mash of mind-reading (seriously: is it only Catholics who are convicted under that particular “law”? Some of you are rather brazen about it, frankly... as in this case), coupled with an emotion-based “feeling” that you—well—”just aren’t convinced that I’m convinced of the veracity of what I’m saying... but I put on an excellent show of looking like one.” (Translated: “I’m not convinced that you’re not a liar, but you’re a very skilled one, if you are.”)

FRiend, I suggest you take the plank out of your own eye, and look again. Stop trying to assume that you can read my mind or heart (you can’t), stop trying assume that I intend to “put anyone down” (I don’t) or “lecture” (what does that really mean, aside from the fact that you dislike my style of writing?), and stop trying to assume that you have some sort of Gnostic insight into how anyone else works (you don’t), if you want to discuss things with me at all.

Tell you what: if you don’t assume that I’m a lying, manipulative, lecturing hypocrite (albeit an “excellently skilled” one), I won’t assume the same about you, and we can agree to take words at face-value. Agreed?


579 posted on 02/16/2015 3:06:22 PM PST by paladinan (Rule #1: There is a God. Rule #2: It isn't you.)
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To: Resettozero
I thought you had been r-u-n-n-o-f-t and am pleased you weren’t.

I'm the only one that remains unaffiliated.

580 posted on 02/16/2015 3:06:53 PM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Resettozero
. I hope you are not too heavily invested in Roman Catholicism to see the Truth of this matter.

I do not know the veracity of the following; whether it was fact, legend, myth or just something that sounds accurate...

In the 1800's, a sign near the start of the wagon trails west:

Choose your rut carefully; as you'll be in it for a thousand miles or more.

581 posted on 02/16/2015 3:09:07 PM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Resettozero

Discuss the message not the messenger.


586 posted on 02/16/2015 3:17:47 PM PST by Religion Moderator
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