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To: CynicalBear

Thou art Simon the son of Jona: thou shalt be called Cephas, which is interpreted Peter (Petros.


Ok, so if Cephas is a rock then petros would have to be a rock, if not then some ones interpretation is wrong, is that agreed?


173 posted on 02/11/2015 11:04:00 PM PST by ravenwolf (s letters scripture.)
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To: ravenwolf
>>Ok, so if Cephas is a rock then petros would have to be a rock, if not then some ones interpretation is wrong, is that agreed?<<

Yes it does mean rock. Petros means a small rock or stone. On the other hand, petra, which Christ said the ekklesia would be built on is an unmovable rock.

4073 (pétra) is a "solid or native rock, rising up through the earth" (Souter) – a huge mass of rock (a boulder), such as a projecting cliff. [http://biblehub.com/greek/4073.htm]

4074 (Pétros) which is "a detached stone or boulder" [http://biblehub.com/greek/4073.htm]

So I agree with you. Someone's interpretation is wrong. Peter indeed was call a "detached stone or boulder". Something movable. But Jesus said He would build His ekklesia on an unmovable "huge mass of rock". Would you rather be part of an ekklesia build on a moveable "detached stone" or an unmovable "huge mass of rock"? I think the Holy Spirit chose the words He used for a reason.

197 posted on 02/12/2015 5:19:20 AM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: ravenwolf
Paul tells us who *petra* is.

And it isn't Peter.

Also, here, Paul identifies who petra is, and that is Christ. This link takes you to the Greek.

http://biblehub.com/text/1_corinthians/10-4.htm

1 Corinthians 10:1-4 For I do not want you to be unaware, brothers, that our fathers were all under the cloud, and all passed through the sea, and all were baptized into Moses in the cloud and in the sea, and all ate the same spiritual food, and all drank the same spiritual drink. For they drank from the spiritual Rock (petra) that followed them, and the Rock (petra) was Christ.

It simply cannot get any plainer.

....the Rock (petra) was Christ.

251 posted on 02/12/2015 12:10:02 PM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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