Posted on 02/11/2015 12:02:36 PM PST by RnMomof7
Speaking of the Jews.
Romans 3:2 Much in every way! First of all, the Jews have been entrusted with the very words of God.
NOT to the Catholics. Now, please show where the Jews ever considered the apocryphal books scripture.
Hint: The apocryphal books were never acknowledged as sacred scriptures by the Jews.
I just liked the graphic.
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Not so fascinating. Nothing in what he wrote showed that the Jews considered the apocrypha scripture.
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The Holy Spirit inspired the New Testament to be written in Greek which has distinctly different words Petros and Petra which have distinctly different meanings. I don't think we should question what the Holy Spirit had written.
God used Judas, Balaam's donkey, and Pilot to advance His plan. Should we continue?
Isata gotcha???
Gee whiz MM, if there is no infallible commentary, the next thing you know, someone might say, that he is not really intrerpreting scripture, he is simply reading it and telling me what it says. Can you see that happening?😄😃😇
That error has been addressed several times already.
If Jesus gave the command somewhere to *Listen to the church*, please provide the chapter and verse for it.
...and that those who “will not listen to the church, treat him as a pagan or tax collector.”
And again, that is in regard to dealing with disputes between individual believers where the issue has not been resolved at the levels before it.
Here is the passage in context.
This passage is not a blanket order to obey the leadership of any church which claims that it alone is the one true church.
It is at the end of a discourse addressing how to handle disputes in the body.
It lays out very specifically the steps one is to go through in resolving personal conflict within the body.
Matthew 18:15-20 “If your brother sins against you, go and tell him his fault, between you and him alone. If he listens to you, you have gained your brother. But if he does not listen, take one or two others along with you, that every charge may be established by the evidence of two or three witnesses. If he refuses to listen to them, tell it to the church.
And if he refuses to listen even to the church, let him be to you as a Gentile and a tax collector. Truly, I say to you, whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven. Again I say to you, if two of you agree on earth about anything they ask, it will be done for them by my Father in heaven. For where two or three are gathered in my name, there am I among them.”
NOWHERE does Jesus command us to "listen to the church".
The comment is *IF he does not listen to the church, then......*
That is a gross misinterpretation of the passage to claim or imply that it is a standing order of Jesus to listen to the Catholic church.
The clear meaning is here for everyone to see. It's dealing with disputes among believers, not absolute authority given to *the Church*.
Is that your own personal interpretation of Scripture?
Do you not believe that the Bible is Scripture?
On what authority do you get to determine and decide what is Scripture and what is not?
Are you saying then that the RCC puts stuff in the Bible that is NOT Scripture?
Non-Catholic answer: The Bible is sufficient because it IS Scripture and Scripture is sufficient.
No argument about the name of Peter can be made on manuscripts that do not exist (Aramaic) because if they did they would have said it this way........
That is beyond ludicrous as a way to defend a position.
The Holy Spirit inspired the NT in Greek. Whatever anyone may think the words might have been had they been in another language is irrelevant.
Satan is still saying..... *Did God really say....?*
"Are you saying then that the RCC puts stuff in the Bible that is NOT Scripture?
Wow! Ol' Tom and Martin Luther, stripping stuff out of the Bible! Imagine the irony...
I don’t think we should question what the Holy Spirit had written.
I also don`t question what Jesus said.
FOTFLOL!!!!!
Yeah, but the enemy is still getting lots of mileage out of *Did God really say....?*
Why should he give it up?
(but I did....)
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