“Many Catholic apologists have honed to near perfection the technique of blasting to smithereens the anti-creedal, anti-historical, anti-intellectual positions of “Bible-Only” fundamentalists.”
That’s quite claim. I’d like to see that, because I’ve seen nothing but sophism from the Protestant side trying to defend their own creeds.
First they divided the Christian faith, now they want to divide FReepers. Is this weird or what?
Uh, there's also the Short Catechism, which does not come across to me as Sophist; if you go more deeply into Luther's Catechism, he buttresses every statement of his by Scripture, showing that the Creed is a statement based on Scripture.
“Many Catholic apologists have honed to near perfection the technique of blasting to smithereens the anti-creedal, anti-historical, anti-intellectual positions of “Bible-Only” fundamentalists.”
" That’s quite claim. I’d like to see that, because I’ve seen nothing but sophism from the Protestant side trying to defend their own creeds."
And in my opinion, your first reply is as sophist as you claim Protestants are
I'm non Catholic .. I protest nothing
Catholics need to refrain from using "Protestant" as a descripture and separate the Catholic from the non-Catholic.
I think the debate would be more intellectual and mature
Bonaventure: …the gates of heaven will open to all who confide in the protection of Mary. Blessed are they who know thee, O Mother of God, for the knowledge of THEE is the high road to everlasting life, and the publication of thy virtues is the way of ETERNAL SALVATION . Give ear, O ye nations; and all you who desire heaven , serve, honor Mary, and certainly you will find ETERNAL LIFE.
Ephem: …devotion to the divine Mother…is the unlocking of the heavenly Jerusalem.
Blosius: To the, O Lady, are committed the KEYS and the treasures of the kingdom of Heaven.
Ambrose: …constantly pray ‘Open to us, O Mary, the gates of paradise, since thou hast its KEYS.
Fulgetius: …by Mary God descended from Heaven into the world, that by HER man might ascend from earth to Heaven.
Athanasius: …And, thou, O Lady, wast filled with grace, that thou mightiest be the way of our SALVATION and the means of ascent to the heavenly Kingdom.
Richard of Laurence: Mary, in fine, is the mistress of heaven; for there she commands as she wills, and ADMITS whom she wills.
Guerric: …he who serves Mary and for whom she intercedes, is as CERTAIN of heaven as if he were already there…and those who DO NOT serve Mary will NOT BE SAVED.
Anselm: It suffices, O Lady, that thou willest it, and our SALVATION is certain.
Antoninus: …souls protected by Mary, and on which she casts her eyes, are NECESSARILY JUSTIFIED AND SAVED.
Really? That explains why i have never seen you post in all my years posting on the FR, which by God's grace has been extensive. And in which is RC sophistry that has been often exposed.
Including their fundamental premise than an infallible magisterium is essential to correctly know what the Bible consists of, and its meaning, and that being the historical instruments and stewards of that means Rome possess perpetual magisterial infallibility. Which is what is behind the recourse to the "we gave you the Bible" polemical assertion.
Care to defend that, and multitude others things not seen in the NT church?