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To: Iscool
In a few hundred places in the scriptures...That why people who actually read the scriptures know that's the truth...

Except that Scripture says the CHURCH is the pillar and foundation of Truth.

“But if I tarry long, that thou mayest know how thou oughtest to behave thyself in the house of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and foundation of the truth.” 1Tim 3:15

Show me where the Bible says the Bible is the pillar and foundation of Truth.

228 posted on 02/10/2015 12:55:14 PM PST by FatherofFive (Islam is evil and must be eradicated)
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To: FatherofFive; Iscool
Directly from the Greek.

1 Timothy 3:15 if moreover I should delay that you might know how it behoves one in the household of God to conduct oneself which is the ekklesia of God the living pillar and base of truth.

Who is the pillar and base of truth?

234 posted on 02/10/2015 1:24:29 PM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: FatherofFive
Except that Scripture says the CHURCH is the pillar and foundation of Truth.

Actually it says God is the pillar and ground of the truth...

New Christians come into the churches knowing nothing...They have teachers in the churches...God teaches the teachers...God is the pillar and ground of the truth...

Besides, God describes the churches in the scriptures and not a single one of them resembles your religion...So where did your Church come from???

239 posted on 02/10/2015 1:38:28 PM PST by Iscool
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To: FatherofFive
1 Timothy 3 Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition (DRA)

A faithful saying: if a man desire the office of a bishop, he desireth a good work.   (What about pope, cardinal, Swiss Guard...)

It behoveth therefore a bishop to be blameless, the husband of one wife, sober, prudent, of good behaviour, chaste, given to hospitality, a teacher, (HMMM...)

Not given to wine, no striker, but modest, not quarrelsome, not covetous, but

One that ruleth well his own house, having his children in subjection with all chastity.

But if a man know not how to rule his own house, how shall he take care of the church of God?  (Evil pope list time?)

Not a neophyte: lest being puffed up with pride, he fall into the judgment of the devil.  (At least none of our FR Cathiolics have THIS problem!)

Moreover he must have a good testimony of them who are without: lest he fall into reproach and the snare of the devil.  (Pope Francis is a GREAT guy!)

Deacons in like manner chaste, not double tongued, not given to much wine, not greedy of filthy lucre:   (O...   K...)

Holding the mystery of faith in a pure conscience.

10 And let these also first be proved: and so let them minister, having no crime.   (Unless yer a POPE.  History shows that they CAN GET AWAY WITH murder!)

11 The women in like manner chaste, not slanderers, but sober, faithful in all things.

12 Let deacons be the husbands of one wife: who rule well their children, and their own houses.   (No pope need apply)

13 For they that have ministered well, shall purchase to themselves a good degree, and much confidence in the faith which is in Christ Jesus.   (NO!!! Faith in the CHURCH!! and Mary; too!)

14 These things I write to thee, hoping that I shall come to thee shortly.

15 But if I tarry long, that thou mayest know how thou oughtest to behave thyself in the house of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and ground of the truth.

16 And evidently great is the mystery of godliness, which was manifested in the flesh, was justified in the spirit, appeared unto angels, hath been preached unto the Gentiles, is believed in the world, is taken up in glory.

 

 

 

...which is the church of the living God, the pillar and ground of the truth.    Parse correctly and one sees that GOD is the pillar.  Some folks claim that the CHURCH is the pillar. 

 

 

310 posted on 02/11/2015 2:48:14 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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