In the general, no, only in the particular. The problem is that you already dismissed they idea of the general. The problem is your apparent misunderstanding of the reality of the Church.
I understand your view of "the reality of the Church". It is simply unconvincing.
251 posted on 02/10/2015 3:08:05 AM PST by Fzob
(Jesus + anything = nothing, Jesus + nothing = everything)