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To: Talisker

“That a layperson can read a Bible in English, or another language, and pray for understanding, and they will receive the understanding they seek from reading those words of God, even through translation.”

If it were that simple then no Protestant would ever come to a different conclusion than any other Protestant. But they do. Everyday.


51 posted on 02/07/2015 1:16:24 AM PST by vladimir998
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To: vladimir998; Talisker; Steelfish; Alex Murphy

And so do Roman Catholics, just as Christians everywhere (including those who would eventually become recognized as 'Roman' Catholic) have for centuries.

On the pages of this forum, upon more than one occasion I have witnessed Romanists make a statement, then in the very next statement refute the one which they had just made, immediately preceding.

I mean, it's more often that when there are contradictions and disagreements with one's self, then that would be spread out from thread to thread, and over a matter of days...but I've seen the self-refuting commentary be self-contained in one comment/reply, more than once.

Then again, perhaps those particular 'Catholics' who refute themselves in consecutive statements are (borderline?) schizophrenic, and/or are off their med's (or need the dosage adjusted), which could perhaps be a logical excuse for themselves to be blatantly and immediately contradictory.

I've witnessed 'Catholics' disagree among themselves (not just within themselves, lol) as to doctrine also, though that does not appear as often --- openly --- with myself getting the impression that part of the reason for the comparable, seeming rarity of that (compared with freepers whom are not "Catholic" but venture to make comment) is lest the more hyena-minded Romanists whom infest the pages of FreeRepublic gang up on them, and then devour them, resulting in those whom would disagree (or worse! agree with so-called 'Protestant' expressions as being accurate enough for many things, to be useful) often 'lay low', or venture comments here on the 'religion' forum but rarely.

The indiscriminate condemnation of "protestants" which is often indulged in by Roman Catholics, the insults to the intelligence of this or that person, etc., are not exactly official doctrine and dogma of the RCC either, which means that when broadly sweeping criticisms & condemnations are dished out -- by the likes of, for example, yourself, then it could be argued that at those instances you yourself are "coming to a different conclusion" than men such as Ratzinger (a.k.a. Pope Emeritus Benedict XVI) often has, himself having gone so far as to say the likes of "we must listen to our partners" when referring to theologians outside of the ecclesiastical community to which he himself belongs.

But go on, yourself, be at odds with the "Magesterium" if you like, do whatever... whatever blows your own skirts up (as long as it's bashing 'protestants' is has to be right, eh?).

Meanwhile, did you do any checking into the background and personality of this latest 'convert to Catholicism' (converted in 1989, I take it)?

I am not one of those who has much in the way of 'gay-dar', but one doesn't need highly tuned discernment in that area to realize the man is a flaming pillow-biter.

I could hardly bear to listen to him talk...uh, I mean lisp

All these years in the RCC, partaking communion in the RCC, and he's still a fag? And here I thought that doing so was supposed to inwardly change a person's soul, be as a veritable gnawing on the flesh of Christ, a means for grace itself.

In the video..the first thing the guy says is "is that a hot dog...with chile?" while performing a quick little squirm in his seat, then asking if the sellers accept Bitcoin.

Yeah sure, "can I have change for this Bitcoin?" (from the price of a sandwich). WHat a maroon!.

Oh well. Maybe that can be blamed on the Presbyterians (all the sins of the world, the very downfalling of human nature into sinful nature and condition -- IT"S ALL THE FAULT OF THOSE PROTESTANTS --- isn't it?) for he was allegedly one of those, once, for a few years, I think.

It's no wonder he trotted himself and his little bow-ties away from the 'Baptists' he was born among.

53 posted on 02/07/2015 4:24:49 AM PST by BlueDragon (the weather is always goldilocks perfect, on freeper island)
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To: vladimir998
“That a layperson can read a Bible in English, or another language, and pray for understanding, and they will receive the understanding they seek from reading those words of God, even through translation.”

If it were that simple then no Protestant would ever come to a different conclusion than any other Protestant. But they do. Everyday

I know, incredible, right? Is almost like God could use the same Bible to speak to millions of people's different needs exactly as they need help, but by using the same words in the same book. LOL, what a farce! God would have to have, like, infinite power out something to pull that off, dude! And speak to their very souls or something, as if they actually rated that level of communication! Like they're a priest or something, you know, someone who actually matters to God - not, you know... ordinary people.

And why should God even do it? I mean, priests have important priest reasons. But ordinary people? LOL, what are they going to say - "dear God, please help me"? What a joke! Stupid peasants, bothering God like that and presuming He would actually care about their sorry little stupid lives.

After all, that's why priests exist - to take care of the riff-raff, so God can get on with the important things, and talk with the people important enough to deserve His notice.

Everyone wants a piece of Jesus. It's just pathetic. No degrees, no peer-review of their understanding of the teachings, nothing. Just gimme, gimme, gimme. It's like they all think they can just come to Him as children.

Utterly absurd.

107 posted on 02/07/2015 9:51:32 PM PST by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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