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To: ADSUM
I sense ill feelings that are not explained about the Catholic Church.

Not ill feelings toward the Roman Catholic Church, just the adherents that claim you need Christ plus Roman Catholic Church teaching and all it's extra biblical teaching for salvation and if you aren't a Catholic you are bound to hell...

More than once I have have been told this by supposedly Christians...

I put my faith and salvation in Christ and Christ only and his Holy Word....I don't need Rome...

371 posted on 02/08/2015 11:37:25 AM PST by Popman (Christ: My Cornerstone...)
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To: Popman

Your comment: “Not ill feelings toward the Roman Catholic Church, just the adherents that claim you need Christ plus Roman Catholic Church teaching and all it’s extra biblical teaching for salvation and if you aren’t a Catholic you are bound to hell...”

The Catholic Church was founded by Jesus and given the authority by Jesus (Matthew 16):
18k And so I say to you, you are Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church,* and the gates of the netherworld shall not prevail against it. 19l I will give you the keys to the kingdom of heaven.* Whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven; and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.”

I would suggest that all Christians that were interested in getting close to Jesus would want to be part of His Church.

Your comment: “if you aren’t a Catholic you are bound to hell...”

The Second Vatican Council speaks of salvation outside the Church in Lumen Gentium, nos. 14 and 16. Here are the pertinent sections from those two articles:

14. This Sacred Council wishes to turn its attention firstly to the Catholic faithful. Basing itself upon Sacred Scripture and Tradition, it teaches that the Church, now sojourning on earth as an exile, is necessary for salvation. Christ, present to us in His Body, which is the Church, is the one Mediator and the unique way of salvation. In explicit terms He Himself affirmed the necessity of faith and baptism (cf. Mk 16:16; Jn 3:5) and thereby affirmed also the necessity of the Church, for through baptism as through a door men enter the Church. Whosoever, therefore, knowing that the Catholic Church was made necessary by Christ, would refuse to enter or to remain in it, could not be saved. [. . .]

16. [. . .] Those also can attain to salvation who through no fault of their own do not know the Gospel of Christ or His Church, yet sincerely seek God and moved by grace strive by their deeds to do His will as it is known to them through the dictates of conscience. Nor does Divine Providence deny the helps necessary for salvation to those who, without blame on their part, have not yet arrived at an explicit knowledge of God and with His grace strive to live a good life. Whatever good or truth is found amongst them is looked upon by the Church as a preparation for the Gospel. She knows that it is given by Him who enlightens all men so that they may finally have life.


376 posted on 02/08/2015 1:38:37 PM PST by ADSUM
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To: Popman
I put my faith and salvation in Christ and Christ only and his Holy Word....I don't need Rome...

Then you are INCOMPLETE: missing something.


Why oh WHY won't our Catholic brothers tell us what it is???

394 posted on 02/08/2015 2:22:22 PM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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