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To: CynicalBear; Elsie

Yes, you do play internet theologian and for all the reasons previously stated on this thread.

You reject the fact that before the Bible there is the Church as supported by the writings of the early theologians, we call the Church fathers and by Catholic theologians whose teaching are enshrined as part of the theological curriculum in prestigious universities.

You dispute that there is ONE truth, since everyone and their grandmother, and as Luther would say the milkmaid, can open a Bible and supply their own interpretations. Go try telling Jim Jones and David Koresh that they were wrong? Or Rev. Wright? You don’t have the intepretative authority given exclusively St. Peter ad his successors and to the ONE Church that is universal in its CREDO, its beliefs, and its forms of veneration and worship.

This is evidently by the fact that throw out a swamp of quotations with no clue how these must be read and understood in context of the whole fabric of Christology as others have done and, upon seeing how absurd the interpretations given those quotes you cite have led them to convert to Catholicism.

You refuse to examine the works of those Protestants who have spent a lifetime studying scripture, including early historical sources, those learned in Greek and Hebrew and have found Bible-Christianity not only shallow but absurdly wrong to the point of being illiterate.

By your lights, the early Church fathers, Catholic and Protestant theologians who converted, the saints, the martyrs, the stigmatists, and all those thousands of others from Bobby Jindal to Tony Blair to Jewish Rabbis, and Nobel Laureates, were all wrong.

Can’t you see the sheer preposterous nature of the arguments you advance that they have become a caricature.

Yes, none so blind as those who refuse to see.


254 posted on 02/06/2015 12:04:48 PM PST by Steelfish
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To: Steelfish; Elsie
I understand that the "crowd" is important to you. You have told us that often. You keep telling us we should follow some man as surely they must be right because they also joined the "crowd". But Christ wasn't concerned about the "crowd". He was speaking to, and concerned about only those who were given to Him by the Father. It is His words I put as first, foremost, and only as a source. Not some supposedly "trained theologian. The Pharisees and Sadducees were "trained theologians" and it didn't turn out well for them either.>You dispute that there is ONE truth<<

Wrong! I insist on only one truth and that to be found in God's word and not in some "trained theologian" or self declared "magisterium".

>>You don’t have the intepretative authority given exclusively St. Peter<<

Oh but I do.

Acts 15:8 And God, which knoweth the hearts, bare them witness, giving them the Holy Ghost, even as he did unto us; 9 And put no difference between us and them, purifying their hearts by faith.

1 John 2:27 As for you, the anointing you received from him remains in you, and you do not need anyone to teach you. But as his anointing teaches you about all things and as that anointing is real, not counterfeit--just as it has taught you, remain in him.

I will remain in the Holy Spirit and not in the Catholic Church.

>>You refuse to examine the works of those Protestants who have spent a lifetime studying scripture<<

Oh I have examined many of them and then "searched the scriptures to see if what they said was true" and found them wanting and in error, their teachings a lie and not the truth.

>>By your lights, the early Church fathers, Catholic and Protestant theologians who converted, the saints, the martyrs, the stigmatists, and all those thousands of others from Bobby Jindal to Tony Blair to Jewish Rabbis, and Nobel Laureates, were all wrong.<<

Wide is the way! Their kind were falling away already in Paul's time and by the time John wrote Revelation most of the assemblies had already left the true teaching. It's not at all surprising how far off the Catholic Church and those who follow it have fallen. We were told there would come a falling away and your fascination with the "crowd" is evidence enough.

263 posted on 02/06/2015 12:54:44 PM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: Steelfish
Yes, you do play internet theologian and for all the reasons previously stated on this thread.

Well; How'm I doin'?

277 posted on 02/06/2015 3:20:38 PM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Steelfish
Can’t you see the sheer preposterous nature of the arguments you advance that they have become a caricature.

I wonder what Baghdad Bob is doin' these days...


278 posted on 02/06/2015 3:21:21 PM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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