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Mass as nourishment, not as obligation
OSV ^ | February 5, 2015 | Melinda Selmys

Posted on 02/05/2015 2:50:39 PM PST by NYer

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To: .45 Long Colt

“Why I Am a Protestant”
http://www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?SID=6847

“But this man, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God”


81 posted on 02/05/2015 6:06:36 PM PST by .45 Long Colt
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To: ADSUM; metmom
>>A friend tells one the truth, not what they want to hear.<<

That's why we point out the lies and falsehoods of Catholicism.

>>CB’s comment was also unchristian and an insult to Jesus<<

It's an insult to Jesus to worship a cracker.

82 posted on 02/05/2015 6:06:59 PM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: CynicalBear

Um, he vs she? A choice of pronouns (admittedly with some profound implications) is a reason to fight aginst each other versus the Enemy?! Just wow.

So you are 100% sure that your interpretations of Scripture are 100% perfect? I have friends who have learned Greek and Aramaic just to study scripture, and they don’t make that claim. There are a few people in the Catholic Church who have been doing so for a little while, too. Just a couple. For a little while. Like several centuries.

But yeah, let’s fight each other instead of Lucifer’s influence upon the world based on a pronoun. Gee, who do you think that would please?!


83 posted on 02/05/2015 6:09:14 PM PST by piytar (If you don't know what taqiyya and the doctrine of abrogation are, you are a fool!)
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To: tiki; WVKayaker; Elsie
I’m not being mean or arrogant but I feel sorry for those who don’t receive the nourishment of our Lord Jesus Christ.

I know you do not understand this..but we pity people that think eating a cracker makes for Christian maturity and having Christ dwell in you for a few seconds..

Those of us that have been saved find that to know Christ one has to "eat " His word..let it dwell in you ..to have it made living by the ever present Christ in us

84 posted on 02/05/2015 6:09:15 PM PST by RnMomof7
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To: ADSUM; CynicalBear
We do put our faith and trust in Jesus (Trinity) and His Church

And in there lies the problem

The church is not a building, or a set of doctrinal beliefs or a group gathers for a tradition.. HIS Church is comprised of the saved ...the elect of God. People of all races, nations and tribes.. and denominations .. the Bride of Christ is not Rome

85 posted on 02/05/2015 6:14:58 PM PST by RnMomof7
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To: Elsie

LOL


86 posted on 02/05/2015 6:16:05 PM PST by RnMomof7
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To: metmom

Sorry if I took being called a “cultist” as anti-Christian.


87 posted on 02/05/2015 6:16:14 PM PST by piytar (If you don't know what taqiyya and the doctrine of abrogation are, you are a fool!)
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To: piytar

Definitely anti-Catholic, right?


88 posted on 02/05/2015 6:18:57 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

Yup. My bad.


89 posted on 02/05/2015 6:19:43 PM PST by piytar (If you don't know what taqiyya and the doctrine of abrogation are, you are a fool!)
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To: WVKayaker

Keep feeling sorry! There is Catholicism and the rest of the drivel from Billy Grahams interpretations of scripture to Jim Jones, David Koresh and the milkmaid. This Bible you quote from did not fall from the skies. They were books assiduously examined for their authenticity against the received oral tradition and sacred rituals and assembled by the early Church fathers under Petrine Authority. It took more than 100 years of early Catholic theologians to do this.

It does not help to quote swatches of scripture out of context and play sophomoric internet theologian. Bible-Christianity is so shallow, it has been said that when their thinking is taken to the deep end of the pool they drown.

Catholics don’t ned any of that born-again nonsense, we have the Holy Eucharist, the true Body of Christ.


90 posted on 02/05/2015 6:22:32 PM PST by Steelfish
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To: ADSUM; WVKayaker
Your comment: “I pray constantly that the scales of the Roman Catholic cult (biggest scam in history!) will be removed and God will arise and the enemy be vanquished!”

Exclusivity from/Denunciation of Other Groups: Each cult group, regardless of what other doctrines are taught, will all have this one common idea -- "The Only True Church Syndrome." The members of each specific organization have been taught that their church, organization, or community, is the only true group and that all other groups are false.

Exclusivistic: only the group has "the truth," . . . (www.doubters.net/cult.htm) Morehead writes in the context of cults like Mormonism, Jehovah's Witnesses, Christian Science and others. The "group" is a theological group not specific in locale. Thus, Morehead's "characteristic" blasphemes the way of truth (2 Peter 2:2), because this is the way of truth. Those who follow Christ are the only group that has the truth, because they follow the Truth (John 14:6). All who follow Christ, no matter where they are located, speak thus:

The group will place a tremendous emphasis on "doing good works". Members of the group may appear obsessed with doing whatever the group tells them to do, for instance always being at meetings. (www.reachouttrust.org/regulars/articles/cult/winbck.htm, web link no longer available, hard copy on file)

(www.rapidnet.com/~jbeard/bdm/Cults/marksof.htm)

Ypu were saying??

91 posted on 02/05/2015 6:23:47 PM PST by RnMomof7
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To: tiki; RnMomof7

**I’m not being mean or arrogant but I feel sorry for those who don’t receive the nourishment of our Lord Jesus Christ.**

I suspect you don’t have an appreciation for how Christians view the Lord’s Supper.

Here is how Reformed (Presbyterian and Dutch Reformed) see it:

Q. 168. What is the Lord’s supper?
A. The Lord’s supper is a sacrament of the New Testament, wherein, by giving and receiving bread and wine according to the appointment of Jesus Christ, his death is showed forth; and they that worthily communicate feed upon his body and blood, to their spiritual nourishment and growth in grace; have their union and communion with him confirmed; testify and renew their thankfulness, and engagement to God, and their mutual love and fellowship each with other, as members of the same mystical body.
Westminster Catechism

Question 75 of the Heidelberg Catechism:

Q. How does the holy supper
remind and assure you
that you share in
Christ’s one sacrifice on the cross
and in all his benefits?

A. In this way:
Christ has commanded me and all believers
to eat this broken bread and to drink this cup
in remembrance of him.
With this command come these promises:1

First,
as surely as I see with my eyes
the bread of the Lord broken for me
and the cup shared with me,

so surely

his body was offered and broken for me
and his blood poured out for me
on the cross.

Second,

as surely as

I receive from the hand of the one who serves,
and taste with my mouth
the bread and cup of the Lord,
given me as sure signs of Christ’s body and blood,

so surely

he nourishes and refreshes my soul for eternal life
with his crucified body and poured-out blood.
________
So you seem we receive tremendous spiritual benefits for this sacrament.


92 posted on 02/05/2015 6:32:27 PM PST by Gamecock (Joel Osteen is a minister of the Gospel like 0bama is a POTUS.)
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To: ADSUM
AMEN! And to love one's enemies as well, as Jesus Himself both said and did.

God bless you!

93 posted on 02/05/2015 6:32:57 PM PST by Grateful2God (That those from diverse religious traditions and all people of good will may work together for peace)
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To: piytar
>>But yeah, let’s fight each other instead of Lucifer’s influence upon the world based on a pronoun.<<

It's Christ who crushes Satan's head NOT Mary.

Here is the Hebrew word for He - ה֚וּא

Here is the Hebrew word for she - הִ֛וא

Look at the mark under the last letter in each. Then look closely at the middle letter in each. Notice the difference? Not too tuff is it? You say " people in the Catholic Church who have been doing so for a little while, too". How long did it take you to see the difference? Get my drift?

And yes is a reason to fight aginst each other because it IS the enemy who would have changes made to scripture.

94 posted on 02/05/2015 6:34:23 PM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: Steelfish

Rome says you don’t need “born-again nonsense.” Christ unequivocally said you do.

“Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.”


95 posted on 02/05/2015 6:34:48 PM PST by .45 Long Colt
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To: metmom
We each need to look at ourselves in order to discover and work on overcoming our faults. Also, unless He is brought to me, I long to be with Jesus in the Blessed Sacrament, and receive him!

God bless you!

96 posted on 02/05/2015 6:37:06 PM PST by Grateful2God (That those from diverse religious traditions and all people of good will may work together for peace)
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To: RnMomof7

II. The Church—Body of Christ
The Church is communion with Jesus

787 From the beginning, Jesus associated his disciples with his own life, revealed the mystery of the Kingdom to them, and gave them a share in his mission, joy, and sufferings.215 Jesus spoke of a still more intimate communion between him and those who would follow him: “Abide in me, and I in you.... I am the vine, you are the branches.”216 And he proclaimed a mysterious and real communion between his own body and ours: “He who eats my flesh and drinks my blood abides in me, and I in him.”217 (755)

788 When his visible presence was taken from them, Jesus did not leave his disciples orphans. He promised to remain with them until the end of time; he sent them his Spirit.218 As a result communion with Jesus has become, in a way, more intense: “By communicating his Spirit, Christ mystically constitutes as his body those brothers of his who are called together from every nation.”219 (690)

789 The comparison of the Church with the body casts light on the intimate bond between Christ and his Church. Not only is she gathered around him; she is united in him, in his body. Three aspects of the Church as the Body of Christ are to be more specifically noted: the unity of all her members with each other as a result of their union with Christ; Christ as head of the Body; and the Church as bride of Christ. (521)

“One Body”

790 Believers who respond to God’s word and become members of Christ’s Body, become intimately united with him: “In that body the life of Christ is communicated to those who believe, and who, through the sacraments, are united in a hidden and real way to Christ in his Passion and glorification.”220 This is especially true of Baptism, which unites us to Christ’s death and Resurrection, and the Eucharist, by which “really sharing in the body of the Lord,... we are taken up into communion with him and with one another.”221 (947, 1227, 1329)

791 The body’s unity does not do away with the diversity of its members: “In the building up of Christ’s Body there is engaged a diversity of members and functions. There is only one Spirit who, according to his own richness and the needs of the ministries, gives his different gifts for the welfare of the Church.”222 The unity of the Mystical Body produces and stimulates charity among the faithful: “From this it follows that if one member suffers anything, all the members suffer with him, and if one member is honored, all the members together rejoice.”223 Finally, the unity of the Mystical Body triumphs over all human divisions: “For as many of you as were baptized into Christ have put on Christ. There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus.”224 (814, 1937)

“Christ is the Head of this Body”

792 Christ “is the head of the body, the Church.”225 He is the principle of creation and redemption. Raised to the Father’s glory, “in everything he [is] preeminent,”226 especially in the Church, through whom he extends his reign over all things. (669, 1119)

793 Christ unites us with his Passover: all his members must strive to resemble him, “until Christ be formed” in them.227 “For this reason we... are taken up into the mysteries of his life,... associated with his sufferings as the body with its head, suffering with him, that with him we may be glorified.”228 (661, 519)

794 Christ provides for our growth: to make us grow toward him, our head,229 he provides in his Body, the Church, the gifts and assistance by which we help one another along the way of salvation. (872)

795 Christ and his Church thus together make up the “whole Christ” (Christus totus). The Church is one with Christ. The saints are acutely aware of this unity: (695, 1474)

Let us rejoice then and give thanks that we have become not only Christians, but Christ himself. Do you understand and grasp, brethren, God’s grace toward us? Marvel and rejoice: we have become Christ. For if he is the head, we are the members; he and we together are the whole man.... The fullness of Christ then is the head and the members. But what does “head and members” mean? Christ and the Church.230

Our redeemer has shown himself to be one person with the holy Church whom he has taken to himself.231

Head and members form as it were one and the same mystical person.232

A reply of St. Joan of Arc to her judges sums up the faith of the holy doctors and the good sense of the believer: “About Jesus Christ and the Church, I simply know they’re just one thing, and we shouldn’t complicate the matter.”233

The Church is the Bride of Christ

796 The unity of Christ and the Church, head and members of one Body, also implies the distinction of the two within a personal relationship. This aspect is often expressed by the image of bridegroom and bride. The theme of Christ as Bridegroom of the Church was prepared for by the prophets and announced by John the Baptist.234 The Lord referred to himself as the “bridegroom.”235 The Apostle speaks of the whole Church and of each of the faithful, members of his Body, as a bride “betrothed” to Christ the Lord so as to become but one spirit with him.236 The Church is the spotless bride of the spotless Lamb.237 “Christ loved the Church and gave himself up for her, that he might sanctify her.”238 He has joined her with himself in an everlasting covenant and never stops caring for her as for his own body:239 (757, 219, 772, 1602, 1616)


97 posted on 02/05/2015 6:41:13 PM PST by ADSUM
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To: Sacajaweau

It’s odd that he would be carrying the envelopes around with him, but the envelopes also are an indicator of the fulfillment of Mass attendance, and can be put in empty if one can’t afford an offering. That way, the parish has a record of attendance if a letter is needed for a sponsor at Baptism or Confirmation.


98 posted on 02/05/2015 6:43:15 PM PST by Grateful2God (That those from diverse religious traditions and all people of good will may work together for peace)
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To: LurkingSince'98; Elsie
>>who told you they were?<<

The Catholic Church say ya'll worship the same God as the Muslims.

99 posted on 02/05/2015 6:47:20 PM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: WVKayaker

True! In light of the unimaginable Sacrifice of Jesus to save us, should we not show our love and thanks, and appreciation each day, simply because of His Love for us?


100 posted on 02/05/2015 6:49:29 PM PST by Grateful2God (That those from diverse religious traditions and all people of good will may work together for peace)
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