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Mass as nourishment, not as obligation
OSV ^ | February 5, 2015 | Melinda Selmys

Posted on 02/05/2015 2:50:39 PM PST by NYer

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1 posted on 02/05/2015 2:50:39 PM PST by NYer
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To: Tax-chick; GregB; SumProVita; narses; bboop; SevenofNine; Ronaldus Magnus; tiki; Salvation; ...

Ping!


2 posted on 02/05/2015 2:50:59 PM PST by NYer (Without justice - what else is the State but a great band of robbers? - St. Augustine)
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To: NYer
I feel sorry that Roman Catholics have this idea that you have to have some "experience" or do something "tangible (i.e.: WORKS) to be a Christian. Christians are followers, believers in the person of Jesus Christ, God Incarnate. ...

I pray constantly that the scales of the Roman Catholic cult (biggest scam in history!) will be removed and God will arise and the enemy be vanquished!

John 6: ... 26 Jesus answered, “Very truly I tell you, you are looking for me, not because you saw the signs I performed but because you ate the loaves and had your fill. 27 Do not work for food that spoils, but for food that endures to eternal life, which the Son of Man will give you. For on him God the Father has placed his seal of approval.”

28 Then they asked him, “What must we do to do the works God requires?”

29 Jesus answered, “The work of God is this: to believe in the one he has sent.”

30 So they asked him, “What sign then will you give that we may see it and believe you? What will you do? 31 Our ancestors ate the manna in the wilderness; as it is written: ‘He gave them bread from heaven to eat.’”

32 Jesus said to them, “Very truly I tell you, it is not Moses who has given you the bread from heaven, but it is my Father who gives you the true bread from heaven. 33 For the bread of God is the bread that comes down from heaven and gives life to the world.”

34 “Sir,” they said, “always give us this bread.”

35 Then Jesus declared, “I am the bread of life. Whoever comes to me will never go hungry, and whoever believes in me will never be thirsty. 36 But as I told you, you have seen me and still you do not believe. 37 All those the Father gives me will come to me, and whoever comes to me I will never drive away. 38 For I have come down from heaven not to do my will but to do the will of him who sent me. 39 And this is the will of him who sent me, that I shall lose none of all those he has given me, but raise them up at the last day. 40 For my Father’s will is that everyone who looks to the Son and believes in him shall have eternal life, and I will raise them up at the last day.” ...

3 posted on 02/05/2015 3:00:00 PM PST by WVKayaker (Impeachment is the Constitution's answer for a derelict, incompetent president! -Sarah Palin 7/26/14)
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To: NYer
The last time I went to my local Catholic Church, I told the priest..."I haven't been here in a long time".

Well, we're glad you're back", he said....and in the same breath, handed me a box of little envelopes. I never went back again.

4 posted on 02/05/2015 3:00:43 PM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: NYer

Thanks for posting. We discussed this in RCIA last week. Tonight the topic is sex and sexuality. It’s a very conservative group, so it should be a great discussion.


5 posted on 02/05/2015 3:12:03 PM PST by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: NYer

For me, Mass is cleansing. After Communion, I pray the Anima Christi, reflecting particularly on the phrase “water from the side of Christ, wash me.”


6 posted on 02/05/2015 3:17:04 PM PST by rwa265
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To: Sacajaweau; NYer

A tired and overused joke. I’m use to hearing it about Methodist or Baptist churches and the minister.


7 posted on 02/05/2015 3:22:19 PM PST by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: All
The Sunday obligation is not a chore the Church exacts from her faithful children but a manifestation of her maternal concern. We are called to Mass every Sunday in much the same way children are called to the dinner table every evening. When the Church tells us that we are obliged to attend, she is telling us how often we need to receive sacramental nourishment in order to remain spiritually healthy.

PFL

8 posted on 02/05/2015 3:24:06 PM PST by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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To: WVKayaker

Are you calling obeying the Commandment “Keep holy the Lord’s Day” a work.

Strange take on obedience.


9 posted on 02/05/2015 3:39:47 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Sacajaweau

You are always welcome to come back. I don’t think the priest was too “with it” in what he did.

If there is a Catholics Can Come Home Again at your church or a neighboring one, please attend it.

We welcome you with open arms.


10 posted on 02/05/2015 3:41:33 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation
Are you calling obeying the Commandment “Keep holy the Lord’s Day” a work.

For Christians, EVERY DAY is the Lord's day!

Trying to do anything to gain God's favor and grace is beyond the requirements set forth in Scripture. The cult of roman Catholicism tries to add more and more to God's Holy Word... and with those additions, they take away the simplicity of the Gospel.

Matthew 11: 27 “All things have been committed to me by my Father. No one knows the Son except the Father, and no one knows the Father except the Son and those to whom the Son chooses to reveal him.

28 “Come to me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest. 29 Take my yoke upon you and learn from me, for I am gentle and humble in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. 30 For my yoke is easy and my burden is light. ...

11 posted on 02/05/2015 3:48:47 PM PST by WVKayaker (Impeachment is the Constitution's answer for a derelict, incompetent president! -Sarah Palin 7/26/14)
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To: WVKayaker; Admin Moderator
the Roman Catholic cult (biggest scam in history!)

Your comment is offensive in the extreme to those of us Christians who prefer a Catholic format for our worship of God and His Son. It also reflects an very un-Christian attitude toward certain fellow Christians and a complete lack of understanding of actual Catholic doctrine.

Rather, it appears to me to be based upon various aspersions cast upon the Church by certain denominations seeking to build up their "churches" at the expense of others with little regard for His teachings.

I'm asking for a zot. Probably won't get it, but the request is hereby submitted.

12 posted on 02/05/2015 3:50:14 PM PST by piytar (If you don't know what taqiyya and the doctrine of abrogation are, you are a fool!)
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I'm asking for a zot. Probably won't get it, but the request is hereby submitted.

There is no such thing as a "Catholic" form of worship in Script. The form chosen by that religion most often flies in the face of what we see in Scripture. The chosen form by that cult relies on distortions and obfuscations and a reliance on their "traditions", rather than relying on God's revealed Words. Jesus had a lot to say about that...

Mark 7: 6 He replied, “Isaiah was right when he prophesied about you hypocrites; as it is written:

“‘These people honor me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me.
7 They worship me in vain; their teachings are merely human rules.’
8 You have let go of the commands of God and are holding on to human traditions.”

9 And he continued, “You have a fine way of setting aside the commands of God in order to observe your own traditions! ...

13 posted on 02/05/2015 4:05:46 PM PST by WVKayaker (Impeachment is the Constitution's answer for a derelict, incompetent president! -Sarah Palin 7/26/14)
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There is no such thing as a "Catholic" form of worship in Scripture!
14 posted on 02/05/2015 4:06:34 PM PST by WVKayaker (Impeachment is the Constitution's answer for a derelict, incompetent president! -Sarah Palin 7/26/14)
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To: Sacajaweau
Well, we're glad you're back", he said....and in the same breath, handed me a box of little envelopes. I never went back again.

How did this action offend you?

15 posted on 02/05/2015 4:09:49 PM PST by NYer (Without justice - what else is the State but a great band of robbers? - St. Augustine)
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Obligation, yes, as it is one of the ways we remember the Sabbath Day to keep it holy. In today's vernacular, "obligation" becomes something negative, something we're forced to do. For me, when I'm able to make it to Mass, it's like recharging my battery. It's the only place in the world where things make sense. The times I miss, as my health does not always permit, I do feel a sense of loss, of missing out on something beyond special.

I also feel that one gets out of Mass what one puts into it. I prepare by reading the Daily Readings ahead of time, (whether or not I'm able to go- Catholics have Mass available every day of the year except Good Friday) and going early to, as one of my pastors from child hood used to say, "place (my)self in the Presence of God." Time to wind down, talk to Him, bring mine and others' needs to Him; thank and praise Him, and just say, "I love You, Lord."

I like the hymns, and while I can no longer sing as I did, I try my hardest to focus. That may mean closing my eyes to avoid distraction but I do my best with the ability that remains. The point is, this isn't entertainment, but a close, quiet feeling of being touched in my heart by a loving God. Receiving Him in the Eucharist is so many things: at times tears flow uncontrollably as if my head were on His Shoulder; at times just a quiet peace; sometimes simply the knowledge that He's there, and that's enough.

For those who find Mass empty, boring, or don't feel they get anything out of it, maybe it's worth a little research, preparation, and a spirit of giving that time to Jesus- rather than looking to receive- and whether or not one perceives it, He in turn will never be out done in His generosity!

God bless you!

16 posted on 02/05/2015 4:10:23 PM PST by Grateful2God (That those from diverse religious traditions and all people of good will may work together for peace)
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>>Are you calling obeying the Commandment “Keep holy the Lord’s Day” a work.<<

Surely no one is delusional enough to believe the 7th day Sabbath God called to be observed is the same as the Catholic Sunday.

17 posted on 02/05/2015 4:11:14 PM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: WVKayaker
I feel sorry that Roman Catholics have this idea that you have to have some "experience" or do something "tangible (i.e.: WORKS) to be a Christian.

There is nothing in this article to support your assessment. How did you come to this conclusion based on the article?

18 posted on 02/05/2015 4:12:04 PM PST by NYer (Without justice - what else is the State but a great band of robbers? - St. Augustine)
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To: WVKayaker

But you just had to click into the thread anyway and start attacking people who believe differently.


19 posted on 02/05/2015 4:13:30 PM PST by AbnSarge
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To: NYer

I love going to Mass and feel it is a gift as well as a chance to worship.

I have a good example though of being careful of how you word things. Yesterday the woman who had volunteered to clean the church this month called an said she wouldn’t be able so I told my 4th graders that we were going to go pick up trash and straighten the books. One of the kids objected and said that he didn’t come to Catechism to clean the church. I said that was okay he didn’t have to help but that God had given us an opportunity to serve Him.

That changed everything, we not only picked up the trash, we vacuumed, mopped and even cleaned the bathrooms, not my choice but theirs. Then we knelt before the Tabernacle and thanked Him for letting us serve Him and then they insisted on kneeling before the altar and praying.

So, yeah, words matter.


20 posted on 02/05/2015 4:17:17 PM PST by tiki
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