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To: BlueDragon
What Roman Catholic group did Christ say that to? The answer is none, for He was speaking directly to Peter.

Matthew 16:18 (Spoken to Peter) "I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven; and whatever you bind on earth shall have been bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth shall have been loosed in heaven."

Matthew 18:18 (The verse I actually quoted spoken to ALL THE APOSTLES) "Truly I say to you, whatever you bind on earth shall have been bound in heaven; and whatever you loose on earth shall have been loosed in heaven.

Further Luke 9:1-2 Then He called His twelve disciples together and gave them power and authority over all demons, and to cure diseases. He sent them to preach the kingdom of God and to heal the sick.

These 12 disciples were the DIRECT predecessors of the today's Bishops and Cardinals. Not a single protestant group can trace a direct line back to the apostles Only the Catholic Church can do this.

311 posted on 02/03/2015 5:16:36 AM PST by verga
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To: verga
Not a single protestant group can trace a direct line back to the apostles Only the Catholic Church can do this.

oh?

I thought we Prots were DESCENDANTS of Catholicism and it's errors?

312 posted on 02/03/2015 5:18:12 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: verga
yawn.

boring.

Like you think don't know that already? That was the point I was making. For a change -- respond to what is said to you, instead of ignoring anything possibly inconvenient while switching to yet other parroted RC apologetic. Or -- you could just do what you prescribed for Elsie to do (#299), and just "shut up".

I notice you did not touch anything he said there...such as when Elsie was referring to the just previous tangent you were upon, himself having asked;

but then you expect everyone to drop everything and respond to your own words (even as you consistently fail to respond to the substance of anyone's comments).

Direct predecessors you say? No, they are not.

Did you not just limit the use of that word "direct" to the Apostles themselves as for them having received direct revelation from God? I did ask you about that -- but received from you no reply as to that point.

Also; anyone today is at the end of a long line of other predecessors, arguably even more so than they are successors to the Apostles themselves.

Revelation as was given Peter, is not inheritable. Even then, at one juncture Jesus told Peter --- "Satan, get behind me!"

Rome -- blow it out yur' [blank]

317 posted on 02/03/2015 6:17:23 AM PST by BlueDragon (the weather is always goldilocks perfect, on freeper island)
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To: verga
(The verse I actually quoted spoken to ALL THE APOSTLES)

Little.by little the Truth is making headway...


Matthew 16:13-18
 13.  When Jesus came to the region of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, "Who do people say the Son of Man is?"
 14.  They replied, "Some say John the Baptist; others say Elijah; and still others, Jeremiah or one of the prophets."
 15.  "But what about you?" he asked. "Who do you say I am?"
 16.  Simon Peter answered, "You are the Christ,  the Son of the living God."
 17.  Jesus replied, "Blessed are you, Simon son of Jonah, for this was not revealed to you by man, but by my Father in heaven.
 18.  And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades  will not overcome it.
 19.  I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven; whatever you bind on earth will be  bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven."
 
Chapters and verses were invented later; as we all know...
 
   When Jesus came to the region of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, "Who do people say the Son of Man is?"   They replied, "Some say John the Baptist; others say Elijah; and still others, Jeremiah or one of the prophets."   "But what about you?" he asked. "Who do you say I am?"  Simon Peter answered, "You are the Christ,  the Son of the living God."   Jesus replied, "Blessed are you, Simon son of Jonah, for this was not revealed to you by man, but by my Father in heaven.   And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades  will not overcome it.    I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven; whatever you bind on earth will be  bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven."
 
 
Reading the text we can see that Jesus is talking to the GROUP of disciples; and He is answered by the impulsive one - SIMON Peter.
After dealing with SIMON Peter, He states - to the group -  "I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven; whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven."
 
Catholic teaching limits this to SIMON Peter.

338 posted on 02/03/2015 10:37:22 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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