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To: RnMomof7

Does that mean that you can commit adultery, murder, lie, steal, etc. and still be saved?

What a falsehood that is!


49 posted on 01/28/2015 4:42:57 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation
Does that mean that you can commit adultery, murder, lie, steal, etc. and still be saved?

We all adultery, murder, lie, steal, etc.. Every single one of us does it in our hearts.

Jesus equated lust with actual adultery and hate with murder.

And yes, redeemed children of God do fall into sin. We give in to temptation in moments of weakness. But that doesn't mean we aren't saved.

Peter in 2 Peter, calls Lot *righteous Lot*.

Now, I'm not sure if you are familiar with Lot's behavior in the OT, but it is hardly something that I would consider a righteous lifestyle, and yet the Holy Spirit called him *righteous*.

Not only that, but your standards would exclude form salvation the likes of Moses, King David, and the apostle Paul.

What a falsehood that is!

On the contrary, THAT is GRACE.

And thanks again for displaying the fact that Catholics believe in a works based salvation. What a falsehood that is!

51 posted on 01/28/2015 5:04:40 PM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: Salvation
>>Does that mean that you can commit adultery, murder, lie, steal, etc. and still be saved? What a falsehood that is!<< Can one do all of the above as long as they go to confession? At what point in murdering and manner of repeat adultery does the confessional explode?

So the premise you set is absurd as it is in contradiction of God's Plan of Grace:

Ezekiel 36:

22 Therefore say unto the house of Israel, thus saith the Lord God; I do not this for your sakes, O house of Israel, but for mine holy name's sake, which ye have profaned among the heathen, whither ye went. 23 And I will sanctify my great name, which was profaned among the heathen, which ye have profaned in the midst of them; and the heathen shall know that I am the Lord, saith the Lord God, when I shall be sanctified in you before their eyes.

24 For I will take you from among the heathen, and gather you out of all countries, and will bring you into your own land.

25 Then will I sprinkle clean water upon you, and ye shall be clean: from all your filthiness, and from all your idols, will I cleanse you. 26 A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh. 27 And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them.

Count the number of times you read "I will" above and Who is doing the Work and what is being done.

72 posted on 01/28/2015 8:42:31 PM PST by redleghunter (Your faith has saved you. Go in peace. (Luke 7:50))
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To: Salvation
Does that mean that you can commit adultery, murder, lie, steal, etc. and still be saved?

What a falsehood that is!

Does not your religion teach that a Catholic can be forgiven of these things as long as confession is made and the price of penance is paid???

103 posted on 01/29/2015 6:20:30 AM PST by Iscool
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To: Salvation
Does that mean that you can commit adultery, murder, lie, steal, etc. and still be saved?

So you deny that God is omniscient ?

114 posted on 01/29/2015 7:20:32 AM PST by RnMomof7 (Ga 4:16)
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To: Salvation
Does that mean that you can commit adultery, murder, lie, steal, etc. and still be saved?

Such hyperbole! No, if you are living a life where the actions you list above are a part of your normal behavior, obviously you are not saved ("by their fruits you will know them".) But Christians can and do fall into sin. The apostle John addresses the issue of Christians and sin very directly in 1 John:

"If we say that we have no sin, we are deceiving ourselves and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, He is faithful and righteous to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. "(1 John 1:8,9) Notice no mention of the need to confess to a priest?

"My little children, I am writing these things to you so that you may not sin. But if anyone does sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous." (1 John 2:1) Since Jesus is our Advocate, He is the only one we need to whom we need to confess.

184 posted on 01/29/2015 10:59:48 AM PST by CA Conservative (Texan by birth, Californian by circumstance)
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