[Heart-Rest]

"The apostles weren't with Christ on the cross."

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There you go again, CynicalBear, trying to insert something into the Bible that really is not there.

Tell me the exact Bible text that says that the apostles were not with Christ on the cross, as you claim in your post.

(Please don't appeal to "tradition" - just give me the Bible text which clearly states that the apostles were not there.)

(And you have the audacity to talk about "pathetic distortion of scripture"!)

If you really want to understand more fully what Fr. Mitch Pacwa was referring to in that short video clip, instead of spewing baseless and bitterly vitriolic verbal assaults on true and honorable men of God, then go to the link shown in "post #902", and listen to the whole audio there.

[Elsie]

There you go again, CynicalBear, trying to insert something into the Bible that really is not there.

(Catholic in the making...)

[CynicalBear]

I think it is you who needs to listen to them again. They are saying that when Christ made the statement For I tell you I will not drink again from the fruit of the vine until the kingdom of God comes."> he was talking about the fourth cup which they say He drank on the cross. I showed that Christ said "I will not drink from this fruit of the vine from now on until that day when I drink it new with you in my Father's kingdom."

Therefore the allegation that Christ was talking about the "fourth cup" which was what they say He drank on the cross is totally contrary to scripture. The apostles were not on that cross nor did Christ drink it "with them". In that video they are lying.

[Iscool]

Tell me the exact Bible text that says that the apostles were not with Christ on the cross, as you claim in your post.

You never read it eh??? Have you read any scripture at all??? You're trying to teach us about God and you don't even know what God says...WoW...