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To: Mark17
I got more experiences behind the walls than you do. I spent a ton of time on death row at San Quentin. Have you ever done that?

25 years of experience putting hubcaps on Chevrolets does not give you 25 years of automotive engineering skill. I have never been on death row on either side of the bars but 25 years in an adult facility means 25 years of keeping the cell locked and making sure that your clients do no harm to themselves or others.

Those same years spent in a serious Juvenile system (and the kids are just as mean as the adults and have a lot more "attitude". is entirely. It was my job to keep the kids from becoming your customers and actually doing them some good. My guys were in a day room...40 of them and 2 officers. The officers had other duties than babysitting, 1 had to escort any kid to his counselor, chapel, visitation, etc....that left 1 officer in charge of the other 39.

Other than segregation unit, there were no cells, all dayrooms and dormitories at night where we combined 2 units into a sleeping unit...80 badasses in bunkbeds.

Different jobs entirely, you dealt with losers and I dealt with those who still had some hope of success in their lives>

MANY have contacted me after they got out and thanked me for understanding their needs and not holding their crimes against them personally...Our kids were convicted of virtually any crime that you can imagine. They ranged in age from 13 to 19...none older, a very few younger..

death row seems very boring...sitting in a chair watching people vegetate...

1,641 posted on 01/29/2015 7:20:54 PM PST by terycarl (common sense prevails over all)
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To: terycarl
Those same years spent in a serious Juvenile system (and the kids are It was my job to keep the kids from becoming your customers and actually doing them some good

You must not have done a very good job then, because I had plenty of customers. I never let criminals call me. If you did, that tells me a lot about you. Now, I have some catholics to go preach to. They need to hear the truth. 😇

1,647 posted on 01/29/2015 8:49:00 PM PST by Mark17 (Calvary's love will sail forever, bright and shining, strong n free. Like an ark of peace and safety)
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To: terycarl
MANY have contacted me after they got out and thanked me for understanding their needs and not holding their crimes against them personally...

Let me, at this late date, thank you for this as well!

1,687 posted on 01/30/2015 4:14:48 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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