THIS guy had a Roman doctor clear up his infected fingernail.
Posted on 01/24/2015 3:23:43 PM PST by NYer
Let all bitterness and wrath and anger and clamor and slander be put away from you, with all malice, and be kind to one another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, as God in Christ forgave you. Ephesians 4:31-32(And this thread is too long already, and it is time for football-gate, so I'll wish you good evening.)
You're projecting?
I've found that most of the time when people assign motive, it's because they think that others think like them. Being all they know, they figure that others would react as they do.
It makes sense to them so they presume it of others.
I don't think you really know what I do or don't "understand", so you should probably stop trying to assume you do. You made a bet challenging Elsie to prove a negative from Scripture - something RCs count on for quite a few of their dogmas. "Show me", you said, "a Bible text that says that the apostles were not at the crucifixion.". You began with the argument, "the Bible does not say they were not at the crucifixion". Your challenge then, was based on the Bible NOT saying the Apostles were NOT there at the crucifixion. The only way to win your "rigged" bet was to bring forth a verse that explicitly said, "The Apostles were not at the crucifixion.". How you rigged it was you already predetermined that ONLY a specific explicit verse would be acceptable and you already knew no such verse said it, though there was certainly plenty of inference that all but John were nowhere to be found with Christ at His crucifixion and a few verses that said they were hiding from the authorities in an upper room so what would make anyone think they were brave enough three days prior when the execution was going on? Catholics base many of their beliefs on the premise that, "Well, the Bible doesn't say it didn't happen.".
My Dad made a bet over a boxing match with my step-mom. She bet on the loser and Dad won the bet. What he didn't tell her was they were watching a repeat of the fight and he already knew who the winner was. Would you call that "rigging the bet"? When the challenger already knows the outcome - unlike, say, two people betting on the Superbowl tonight - any bet he makes with someone who isn't "in" on the facts is being conned, the bet is rigged and not fair to the one challenged.
You can keep arguing this silly point, not missing any chance to make, yet again, derogatory comments about "Protestants", or you can drop it. I'm done explaining it to you.
My calculator says that 5 decades are equivalant to 50 years and I gave you that...what more do you want????
Peter didn't become Pope until year 50....is that O.K. now??
Sorry; but history SHOWS that it was ALL bibles they wanted 'kept out of the hands of'...
OF COURSE IT WAS...You keep the perverted bibles out of the hands of the people by keeping ALL versions out until you are able to discern the difference and remove the bad ones from existance...The people couldn't differentiate because they did not know the difference...
Just exactly how would you have just kept away the bad ones.....remember, we are in the year.....1178....you be the church, what would you do???
>>This is why I ask: “Is ‘that holy thing which shall be born of’ Mary and ‘shall be called the Son of God’ the same God that is the second person of the Trinity.<<
That is a deceptive question.
I do not mean to be deceptive. But I now see where we are focusing on two different things. You on conceiving and I on giving birth.
I will concede your point on conceiving. But Mary did give birth to the second person of the Trinity in Christ Jesus. And Mary raised the second person of the Trinity in Jesus. These are both attributes of a mother. So how can it be said that Mary is not the mother of the second person of the Trinity?
Again, any teachings you can share with me that explains this would be appreciated.
Oh?
Then which one is redundant?
Can we then merely toss out the first; since your second is EXACTLY like it?
HMMMmmm...
I guess the church of Rome has learned this; too?
Quite true; but referring to a time when NONE existed.
Wasn't that SOMETHING!!!!
What a different that a few waning moments of the game makes!
Matthew 231. Then Jesus said to the crowds and to his disciples:
2. "The teachers of the law and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat.
3. So you must obey them and do everything they tell you. But do not do what they do, for they do not practice what they preach.
4. They tie up heavy loads and put them on men's shoulders, but they themselves are not willing to lift a finger to move them.
5. "Everything they do is done for men to see: They make their phylacteries wide and the tassels on their garments long;
6. they love the place of honor at banquets and the most important seats in the synagogues;
7. they love to be greeted in the marketplaces and to have men call them `Rabbi.'
8. "But you are not to be called `Rabbi,' for you have only one Master and you are all brothers.
9. And do not call anyone on earth `father,' for you have one Father, and he is in heaven.
10. Nor are you to be called `teacher,' for you have one Teacher, the Christ.
11. The greatest among you will be your servant.
12. For whoever exalts himself will be humbled, and whoever humbles himself will be exalted.
13. "Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You shut the kingdom of heaven in men's faces. You yourselves do not enter, nor will you let those enter who are trying to.
14. Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye devour widows' houses, and for a pretence make long prayer: therefore ye shall receive the greater damnation.
15. "Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You travel over land and sea to win a single convert, and when he becomes one, you make him twice as much a son of hell as you are.
16. "Woe to you, blind guides! You say, `If anyone swears by the temple, it means nothing; but if anyone swears by the gold of the temple, he is bound by his oath.'
17. You blind fools! Which is greater: the gold, or the temple that makes the gold sacred?
18. You also say, `If anyone swears by the altar, it means nothing; but if anyone swears by the gift on it, he is bound by his oath.'
19. You blind men! Which is greater: the gift, or the altar that makes the gift sacred?
20. Therefore, he who swears by the altar swears by it and by everything on it.
21. And he who swears by the temple swears by it and by the one who dwells in it.
22. And he who swears by heaven swears by God's throne and by the one who sits on it.
23. "Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You give a tenth of your spices--mint, dill and cummin. But you have neglected the more important matters of the law--justice, mercy and faithfulness. You should have practiced the latter, without neglecting the former.
24. You blind guides! You strain out a gnat but swallow a camel.
25. "Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You clean the outside of the cup and dish, but inside they are full of greed and self-indulgence.
26. Blind Pharisee! First clean the inside of the cup and dish, and then the outside also will be clean.
27. "Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You are like whitewashed tombs, which look beautiful on the outside but on the inside are full of dead men's bones and everything unclean.
28. In the same way, on the outside you appear to people as righteous but on the inside you are full of hypocrisy and wickedness.
29. "Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You build tombs for the prophets and decorate the graves of the righteous.
30. And you say, `If we had lived in the days of our forefathers, we would not have taken part with them in shedding the blood of the prophets.'
31. So you testify against yourselves that you are the descendants of those who murdered the prophets.
32. Fill up, then, the measure of the sin of your forefathers!
33. "You snakes! You brood of vipers! How will you escape being condemned to hell?
34. Therefore I am sending you prophets and wise men and teachers. Some of them you will kill and crucify; others you will flog in your synagogues and pursue from town to town.
35. And so upon you will come all the righteous blood that has been shed on earth, from the blood of righteous Abel to the blood of Zechariah son of Berekiah, whom you murdered between the temple and the altar.
36. I tell you the truth, all this will come upon this generation.
37. "O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, you who kill the prophets and stone those sent to you, how often I have longed to gather your children together, as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, but you were not willing.
38. Look, your house is left to you desolate.
39. For I tell you, you will not see me again until you say, `Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord.' "
Mark 7:26-27
26. The woman was a Greek, born in Syrian Phoenicia. She begged Jesus to drive the demon out of her daughter.
27. "First let the children eat all they want," he told her, "for it is not right to take the children's bread and toss it to their dogs."
THIS guy had a Roman doctor clear up his infected fingernail.
...and let GOD sort them out!
Placemarker
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I’ll simply leave you now to the torment of trying to figure that out.
Ezekiel 46 details that our Heavenly Father has three types of days on His calendar.
My point is not only are new moons are separate from Sabbaths, they are separate from work days!
If they weren’t, we would have seen Ezekiel speak of five work days, not six like scripture says..
New moons are the first day of every month of His calendar.
And new moons are not one of the six work days or the sabbath..
New moon (1), work days 1-6 (days 2-7 of month), sabbath 7th( day 8 of month)
Repeat until next new moon.
Days 9-14 are work days, 15th day is sabbath
Days 16-21 are work days, 22nd day is sabbath
Days 23-28 are work days, 29th day is sabbath.
Look for new moon..
The pattern of new moon day, SIX Work days, Sabbath is exactly what Ezekiel 46 gives us.
You can’t get more basic reading comprehension..
The question should be what happened to new moon days? Who got rid of them?
Ad if one studies new moon days in scripture, they have an important piece in counting days.. scripture doesnt say the 266th day from the new moon..
All the counting in EVERY MONTH starts with something..
That something s the new moon.
And our Sovereign says they are different than the six work days and the Sabbath. Unless Ezekiel misquoted Him..
That is why I can know today is the 12th day of His month... simple counting.. and ezekiel’s template confirms Torah and the Feast Days..
The 14th day of every month will be a preparation day... if one counts from the new moon.
Which is why the moon and month is the same word...
New moons have no use in the world. On His calendar, they begin every month count.. and they set up the work week, sabbath and feasts..
They are not just different than the Sabbath, they are different than the work days.
Amos 8:5 helps us to know that too.
New moon isn’t one of the six work days or sabbath..
People stuck with the world’s calendar have no category for the new moon day.
That is why it isnt shocking the world ignores them.
Scripture doesn’t.
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>> “Ezekiel 46 details that our Heavenly Father has three types of days on His calendar.” <<
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No, it does no such thing.
A “Holy Convocation” can fall on either a work day or a Sabbath, and it doesn’t effect the count of days.
Ezekiel was simply stating that in addition to every regular Sabbath, The East gate is opened for every Holy Convocation.
The type of day is solely governed by the eternal count.
You’re trying to change God’s word.
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I haven’t really seen that much on this thread to be tormented about.
Doing an internet search, though, I did find commentaries and apologetics on both sides of the issue.
You might find the following interesting. It’s title is “Scriptural Proof: Mary is Not the Mother of God.” It helped me understand how it can be said that Mary is not the mother of God. Whether Mary is or is not the mother of God, the bottom is always our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. He is the one.
http://contenderministries.org/Catholicism/marymother.php
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