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Mary Matters (Dr. Walter Martin on disbelief in the Mother of God)
Catholic Exchange ^ | JULY 26, 2014 | Tim Staples

Posted on 01/24/2015 3:23:43 PM PST by NYer

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To: Gamecock

I'll see yer nails and raise you a knife...



1,721 posted on 01/30/2015 8:46:07 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

Appropriate tat.


1,722 posted on 01/30/2015 8:50:30 AM PST by Gamecock (Joel Osteen is a preacher of the Gospel like Colonel Sanders is an Army officer.)
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To: CynicalBear; Utah Binger
I would also caution anyone to stay clear of that "pariah".


Yeah; as the buildings are gone and the BLM has made yet another ADA approved park out of it.

I've visited the older movie set at Old Paria; the newer one after that got burned down, but have only seen the changes on GoogleEarth® after THAT one got destroyed; too.


https://www.google.com/search?q=Old+Paria+movie+set&rls=com.microsoft:en-US:IE-Address&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=ie7&gws_rd=ssl

1,723 posted on 01/30/2015 8:56:06 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: rwa265
Can you point me to any teachings, such as doctrines of the Weslayan, Methodist, Lutheran, or other faith, that further explains how Mary did not give birth to the Second person of the Trinity?

Since YOUR chosen religion is older; let it first show us the teachings that the SPOTT did NOT exist before Mary gave birth to Jesus.

1,724 posted on 01/30/2015 9:00:06 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

The Word BECAME flesh...


1,725 posted on 01/30/2015 9:00:53 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: terycarl

Each Friday night after work, Bubba would fire up his outdoor grill and cook a venison steak. But, all of Bubba’s neighbors were Catholic and since it was Lent, they were forbidden from eating meat on Friday.

The delicious aroma from the grilled venison steaks was causing such a problem for the Catholic faithful that they finally talked to their priest.

The Priest came to visit Bubba, and suggested that he become a Catholic.

After several classes and much study, Bubba attended Mass and as the priest sprinkled holy water over him, he said, You were born a Baptist, and raised a Baptist, but now you are a Catholic.

Bubba’s neighbors were greatly relieved, until Friday night arrived, and the wonderful aroma of grilled venison filled the neighborhood.

The Priest was called immediately by the neighbors, and, as he rushed into Bubba’s yard, clutching a rosary and prepared to scold him, he stopped and watched in amazement.

There stood Bubba, clutching a small bottle of holy water which he carefully sprinkled over the grilling meat and chanted, “You wuz born a deer, you wuz raised a deer, but now you is a catfish.


1,726 posted on 01/30/2015 9:10:42 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: editor-surveyor

Friday isn’t in Torah.. neither is Saturday..

They are in the catechism of h catholic church..

Flee roman slavery


1,727 posted on 01/30/2015 9:30:44 AM PST by delchiante
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To: mdmathis6

And that Word made flesh has been counterfeited..

And the Messiah of Israel has been changed into a Greco roman Latin version..

The Roman holy days he is worshipped on prove that by itself..


1,728 posted on 01/30/2015 9:35:19 AM PST by delchiante
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To: Elsie

Gabriel’s announcement to Mary preceded any Christian religion. He told her that the child she would conceive and bear will be called the Son of God.

There are Christians who seem to disagree with Gabriel; that the child to be born is not the Son of God.

I am trying to get an understanding of how someone could reach that conclusion. Can you point me to any teachings that explains it?


1,729 posted on 01/30/2015 9:49:44 AM PST by rwa265
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To: Elsie

Music can raise you to the highest heights. It can make you want to lift your hands in praise-—like Sister Amelia Hall does with one of her cds. I only listen to it when I am in the car but maybe I should change that before I have a wreck. She may not be the best singer in the world but she really believes what she sings. I will always treasure my memories of her staying with us when I was a kid.


1,730 posted on 01/30/2015 10:22:09 AM PST by MamaB
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To: Elsie

Amen.


1,731 posted on 01/30/2015 10:22:48 AM PST by MamaB
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To: delchiante

“And that Word made flesh has been counterfeited..”

But duplicated only once...in Christ as God in flesh!

‘And the Messiah of Israel has been changed into a Greco roman Latin version..’

Translations into vernacularized languages have always been difficult....I hear hair was torn out as they labored over the Japanese versions. As for the “personalized” translations of Jesus’ personality as revealed to each believer’s heart by the Holy Spirit, well God certainly knows how to assert himself.

“The Roman holy days he is worshipped on prove that by itself..”

I believe the early associations of certain points of Christian doctrine with various holidays were sincere but mistaken attempts to make Christianity more palatable and not attempts to “dilute” the faith. Christian’s who have aroused consciences concerning such “holidays” should not celebrate such holidays, lest they violate their own consciences, which the Apostle Paul called sin. Other Christians, possessing differing levels of faith may not view such “feast days” as being violations of their consciences, and thus may celebrate them without having sinned.


1,732 posted on 01/30/2015 10:26:10 AM PST by mdmathis6 ("trapped by hyenas, Bill had as much life expectancy as a glass table at a UVA Frat house party!/s)
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To: Elsie

That was great. A lot of truth in those old songs. Thanks.


1,733 posted on 01/30/2015 10:26:56 AM PST by MamaB
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To: rwa265; metmom
>>Therefore the child to be born will be called holy, the Son of God...”<<

Galatians 3:26 for ye are all sons of God through the faith in Christ Jesus,

Did my mother give birth to a son of God?

>>Because of this, many Christians believe that Mary conceived and gave birth to the Second person of the Trinity “through the power of the Most High.”<<

As I showed you, conceive means "to cause to begin". Please show where scripture says Mary caused the second person of the trinity to begin.

1,734 posted on 01/30/2015 11:02:28 AM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: Elsie

Oh what a tangled web they weave.


1,735 posted on 01/30/2015 11:04:52 AM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: Elsie

It was referenced twice - once in Joshua (10:13) and also 2 Samuel (1:18)


1,736 posted on 01/30/2015 11:06:32 AM PST by delchiante
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To: mdmathis6

Rome’s gospel is not the same gospel Paul preached and taught.

Paul’s plain gospel in 1 Cor 15

The Messiah died for our sins, according to scripture.
(According to scripture, He died for or sins on Passover) that is why called Him our Passover..

And He was buried.

And He was raised on the third day, according to scripture, ( according to scripture, He was raised n the Feast of First Fruits, the day after the first Day of unleavened bread’s Sabbath) that is why called Him our First Fruits.

All of Paul’s gospel, according to scripture, was not according to the new testament. He knew the old testament and the prophets. That is the ‘svriptures ‘ he referenced.

Clevery, romes gospel fits the ‘template’ but not scripture..

As in..
The messiah died for our sins on good Friday, according to Rome.
He was buried and He was raised the third day, Easter Sunday, according to Rome..

It is not the same gospel Paul preached and taught.

It is a similar gospel. But it is another gospel..

And Paul warned people about other gospels and other ‘jesuses’’

Revelation 13 describes a satanic trinity that will cause people to break the first four commandments that deal with worship..

Worshiping when we want to instead of when He mandates it, is not an accident..
And it isn’t an accident the world accepts a calendar named after a pope and holy days that can only be found using the pope’s calendar..

Goodfriday, Easter Sunday and the name Jesus are all Greco roman Latin traditions that can be called substitutes for the genuine.
When we study the Greek word, anti, it doesn’t mean ‘against only like we know it..
It also meant ‘in place of’ , instead of’, or more plainly substitute.

An in place of Christ. An instead of Christ, a substitute Christ..

The scriptures warn about that very thing...


1,737 posted on 01/30/2015 11:26:32 AM PST by delchiante
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To: delchiante

You’re the one that is hung up on friday and saturday.

You’re the one that is deviating from Yehova’s Sabbath.


1,738 posted on 01/30/2015 11:41:04 AM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: terycarl

It means while the world calls today Friday, after some false goddess, His Word, His sky and His calendar shows today is His 1st day..

But it takes faith.,, and to be honest, everywhere you look, a newspaper, TV, phone, computer, radio, they will ‘confirm’ one’s faith that today is Friday..

It is a the difference between trusting His Word or the world..

Each takes faith.. and as His Word says in Romans 12, His will is that we do not conform to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of our mind..

People who like the world should not study our Heavenly Father’s calendar.
The pope has an alternative that the world can follow instead..


1,739 posted on 01/30/2015 11:48:31 AM PST by delchiante
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To: editor-surveyor

His Sabbath was yesterday..

It was a blessing..it always is. But again, I don’t that much faith in Rome’s time keeping but to each his own..

The world concurs with you that today is some goddess friya’s day..
And tomorrow is Saturn’s day..

Tomorrow is simply His 2nd day.. a work day.

Not because the pope’s calendar says so.. His Word, His sky and the calendar He ordained in the sky says so..

But the world is seductive.. and Rome in charge of time is prophetic since Daniel says it would happen..


1,740 posted on 01/30/2015 11:52:45 AM PST by delchiante
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