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To: CynicalBear

“I don’t have to prove anything.”

Actually it would be you.

“It’s Catholics who have to prove that they did teach the assumption.”

Actually, no they don’t.

“I have to simply go by what I know they did teach and consider anyone who teaches something they didn’t to be accursed.”

Okay, let’s test that. Do you believe Matthew’s Gospel is inspired? What Apostle taught that Matthew’s Gospel was an inspired book? Please list the exact verse which answers that question. If you fail to do so we will then know that you hold to something that the Apostles didn’t teach and so - according to your own words - you must believe something accursed.

“The only sure reference we have to what the apostles taught is what was written by them.”

Let’s test that: Show me the inspired table of contents?

“The assumption of Mary wasn’t even spoken of until at least the fourth century by the Catholic Church’s own admission.”

Show me where the Catholic Church “admits” that? Thus, it must be an official Vatican statement of such or a council decree of such. Got one? If you fail to do so, then the falsity of your own statement is obvious.

“See here..”

Please show me the Vatican statement or council decree whereby the Catholic Church says that the 1909 American made Catholic Encyclopedia is in fact “the Catholic Church” and therefore anything in it would constitute “the Catholic Church’s own admission” about anything. If you fail to do so, then the falsity of your own statement is obvious.

“The teaching is part of another gospel and as such is considered accursed by God.”

You have not even proved anyone is claiming it is in itself believed by anyone to be part of a gospel teaching to begin with.


62 posted on 01/24/2015 11:36:53 AM PST by vladimir998
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To: vladimir998
>>Actually, no they don’t.<<

Of course they do. Paul said if they didn't teach it that it was to be considered accursed. If Catholics teach it they must show that the apostles taught it.

>>Show me where the Catholic Church “admits” that?<<

I just did.

>>Please show me the Vatican statement or council decree whereby the Catholic Church says that the 1909 American made Catholic Encyclopedia is in fact “the Catholic Church” and therefore anything in it would constitute “the Catholic Church’s own admission” about anything.<<

Prove that what is in that Encyclopedia is refuted by the Catholic Church. Show where they renounce statements or beliefs claimed there in.

>>You have not even proved anyone is claiming it is in itself believed by anyone to be part of a gospel teaching to begin with.<<

Then Catholics are no different then Muslims or Mormons in that they go by writing other than scripture. We can simply put them all in the same class.

78 posted on 01/24/2015 11:50:58 AM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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