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To: FourtySeven; yldstrk; Arthur McGowan
A blazing star???

So you all actually believe the assortment of ill-conceived allegations expressed in that reply?

Other than the second sentence there (which appears true enough -- no real problem) the remainder of the wall-to-wall accusations are one unjustified attributing-of-motives and false accusation (when applied to "all" so-called Protestants) after another.

The indiscriminate nature of those comments, is a veritable grab-bag of self-justification for Roman Catholic hatreds and bitterness -- of virtually all Christians whom are not of the Church of Rome, yet inclusive also of Christians whom are born of Him, lumping all of the latter in with luke-warmish sorts who approach Christianity from a purely mental (fleshly mind) understanding.

Despite the lukewarmness (towards God) of seemingly many(?), there is likely a remnant of sorts within congregations of even the most liberal sort --- a remnant of those whom do worship God in spirit and in truth, although ultimately that must be left up to Christ Himself to determine, for there truly is none other who can open the scrolls...

Speaking of "veneration of saints", even there, among the "liberal" types, can be those whom venerate human beings, more so than they venerate (and further-- worship) God Almighty.

In that they may share a thing or two with *some* Catholics who are the fearful sort ---- whom will not approach the throne of Grace boldly, and prefer rather to have their own sinful natures remain hidden from themselves (as much as possible) slathering religiosity over that, the better to remain in darkness and semi-darkness, wherein they need not confront their own inward wretchedness.

267 posted on 01/22/2015 12:15:28 PM PST by BlueDragon ( Is it Islamophobic to oppose these beheadings?)
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To: BlueDragon; metmom; Arthur McGowan
So you all actually believe [what is] expressed in that reply?

Yes I do because it's been my experience. Everything that he said about Catholicism and everything he said about "Protestants" has been my experience with both (although I will grant you that the term "Protestant" as applied there is a bit nebulous.).

There may be many who experience what he writes about in the Catholic Church, outside the Church as well but that certainly isn't me. My experience outside the Church but in "Christianity" was a life full of Scripture study but no real transformation in my life, no real desire in me to change my ways because I was "saved" already, as Father described in 91.

If that's not your experience fine, in fact great! Praise God! But there is no way anyone can convince me that what Father wrote in 91 is false because I've lived both sides. For me to deny his words there would be akin to me also saying "The sky isn't really blue after all, I agree, because you have a better argument for a red sky".

273 posted on 01/22/2015 1:02:29 PM PST by FourtySeven (47)
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