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The Cripplegate ^ | July 19,2012 | Nathan Busenitz

Posted on 01/21/2015 4:47:04 PM PST by RnMomof7

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To: daniel1212

wow


322 posted on 01/22/2015 10:49:21 PM PST by mitch5501 ("make your calling and election sure:for if ye do these things ye shall never fall")
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To: Kandy Atz; metmom; boatbums; CynicalBear; daniel1212; mitch5501
It simply amazes me how religion can take something so wonderfully simple as the Word of God and create such a mess.

LOL. You win the post of the day award. It is truly amazing isn't it? Maybe it is like Adam sewing fig leaves together, the first religious act. When men try to reach out to God, they generally mess it up. I prefer to let God reach out to man. He has a better track record.

323 posted on 01/23/2015 3:15:58 AM PST by Mark17 (Fear not little flock, from the cross to the throne, from death into light he went for His own)
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To: mitch5501; daniel1212
wow

A bit long, but a good read. Some crazy stuff going on out there.

324 posted on 01/23/2015 3:31:57 AM PST by Mark17 (Fear not little flock, from the cross to the throne, from death into light he went for His own)
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To: daniel1212

What’s even crazier than these Monty Python type stories is that there are Catholics who actually believe them...


326 posted on 01/23/2015 3:43:29 AM PST by Iscool
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To: mrobisr

Why would a demon perform an act which appears to accrue to the greater glory of God?


328 posted on 01/23/2015 4:50:13 AM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Mark17
A bit long, but a good read. Some crazy stuff going on out there.

Yes, sorry about the length, but the original is even longer, and i wanted to supply enough of the depth of it. The devil often works in religion to two extremes, asceticism or indulgence.

Two things have I required of thee; deny me them not before I die: Remove far from me vanity and lies: give me neither poverty nor riches; feed me with food convenient for me: Lest I be full, and deny thee, and say, Who is the Lord? or lest I be poor, and steal, and take the name of my God in vain. (Proverbs 30:7-9)

But Godliness with contentment is great gain. For we brought nothing into this world, and it is certain we can carry nothing out. And having food and raiment let us be therewith content. (1 Timothy 6:6-8)

329 posted on 01/23/2015 4:51:39 AM PST by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: DuncanWaring
Why would a demon perform an act which appears to accrue to the greater glory of God?

If they do, I would think deception would be the reason. When the beast and false prophet are on the world scene, I suspect there will be a whole lot of deceiving going on out there.

330 posted on 01/23/2015 5:07:41 AM PST by Mark17 (Fear not little flock, from the cross to the throne, from death into light he went for His own)
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To: Sasparilla
Mohammed is high on a pagan Saint list

I'm quite sure that SLC has had him dead dunked by now.

331 posted on 01/23/2015 5:35:12 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: WayneS
I do not think Calvin was a big fan of the Catholic Church.

It appears that LOTS of FR Catholics are not to fond of their latest leader; either.

332 posted on 01/23/2015 5:36:25 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Iscool
I don't know how you can say that with a straight face...

You ought to by now!

He has done it for years here!

333 posted on 01/23/2015 5:38:02 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Arthur McGowan; Iscool

Chick is a banned source on Free Republic. Do not mention him either for or against.


334 posted on 01/23/2015 5:38:54 AM PST by Religion Moderator
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To: Resettozero
Sounds like St. Catherine of Siena was into bondage and stuff and liked men in odd clothing telling her what to do with no questions asked.

Now wait just a doggone minute here!!!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Guinefort

335 posted on 01/23/2015 5:40:06 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Arthur McGowan; metmom
>> The absence of any relics of her body demands an explanation.<<

Nobody kept track of Mary after the day of Pentecostal. She was obviously so irrelevant that not one word was written by either secular or religious writers. The can't even say definitively where she lived or where she died. That pretty much explains "no relics". She wasn't all that important to them.

336 posted on 01/23/2015 5:44:15 AM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: Gamecock; Arthur McGowan; RnMomof7; metmom
>>Who knows what secrets are buried in the bowels of The Vatican.<<

Erased or changed history isn't just for liberals.

337 posted on 01/23/2015 5:46:20 AM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: Elsie

Maybe I ought to set up a shrine for good ol’ Blue.

Since I posted my nonsense about Catherine of Siena, I learned that she was one very sick person and to be pitied, not venerated and misused by the RCC clergy. Cannot tell if she was one of the many female anorexics of that period in history but it sounds as if she was “continually fasting” from food.

And did you hear what she said Jesus gave her instead of a wedding ring?

Dad told me to avoid Catholic girls while in college.


338 posted on 01/23/2015 5:56:20 AM PST by Resettozero
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To: mrobisr

It’s amazing to me that Catholics even ask those questions. Do they not read scripture for themselves at all?


339 posted on 01/23/2015 6:04:44 AM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: DuncanWaring; mrobisr
Are you saying demons work miracles?

One must be careful here to agree upon a definition of "miracles" before proceeding further. In brief:

Scripture plainly states that seducing spirits can perform wondrous acts in their dark plan of damnation, however these "wondrous acts" are not and can not be understood to be creative in their end result.

Given that later caveat, we can see that the miracles attributed to various Saints' intercession over the centuries can not have come from the Devil. Again, because he along with all his minions, can not create one single thing. Only God, who is Love, creates.

Thus, any miracle that actually "creates" something, which at least most that we commonly refer as "miracles" have done, such as a healing, or the Miracle of the Lanciano flesh, are indeed assuredly from God.

The cases where "mere" (as if that adjective truly is appropriate but for lack of a better one it will suffice) visions of Christ and/or Mary appear could, in theory be argued as demonic, if present only by themselves, especially if said visions allegedly tell the viewer to do something contrary to His Word.

However in all cases where the Church has said such are authentic, other creative miracles have also occurred in the life or due to the intercession of said Saint, so thus again, could only have come from God for the same reason as above.

340 posted on 01/23/2015 6:30:36 AM PST by FourtySeven (47)
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