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To: CynicalBear
Are you just trying to cause mischief?

Just read your comments on post 28.

There is nothing in your post 27 but your opinion or false statements about the teachings of the Catholic Church.

So your authority or opinion is greater than anyone else’s authority, especially the Catholic Church that was delegated by Christ to spread the word and baptize in the name of Jesus?

I realize that you only believe in sola scripture, so you are missing out on the Sacred traditions and the oral teachings that were passed down by the early Catholics and the teachings of the Catholic Church on current issues.

From: http://www.cuf.org/2005/02/that-they-may-all-be-one-the-difference-the-church-makes/

God understood that simply communicating His truth—whether in written or oral fashion—would not be sufficient to safeguard truth and associated unity among His people. Given our fallen human nature, self-righteous anarchy is bound to occur in the absence of clearly established, God-given authority. So He appointed visible leaders throughout salvation history to protect His people when truth and unity were threatened.

These men of the Old Testament and the Protestant Reformers made similar mistakes. Both rebellions denied that God had appointed human leaders to govern and intercede for His people. Consequently, both invoked the equality of all believers as a means to reject divinely established human leaders of God’s people. Both sought communion with God without the “encumbrance” of God’s governance through His chosen human instruments. The rebellion of both disrupted communion with God and caused disunity among believers.

The historical record illustrates that the Early Church, including the Fathers and ecumenical councils, understood and accepted papal primacy as the authoritative means that God established to combat heresy and maintain unity.

88 posted on 01/18/2015 12:33:20 PM PST by ADSUM
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To: ADSUM
>>so you are missing out on the Sacred traditions and the oral teachings that were passed down by the early Catholics and the teachings of the Catholic Church on current issues.<<

You can't even show that the "traditions" the Catholic Church claims were actually the "traditions" the apostles were talking about.

The Catholic fiction of "tradition" is a joke.

105 posted on 01/18/2015 3:54:57 PM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: ADSUM
Are you just trying to cause mischief?

Yup!

Luke 7:50...

"Your faith has saved you."


135 posted on 01/18/2015 5:48:01 PM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: ADSUM; CynicalBear
The rebellion of both disrupted communion with God and caused disunity among believers. The historical record illustrates that the Early Church, including the Fathers and ecumenical councils, understood and accepted papal primacy as the authoritative means that God established to combat heresy and maintain unity.

You'll have to go back more than four hundred years before the Reformation to see that it was the Roman Catholic church which broke this so-called unity when they went into schism with the Greek Orthodox over the very doctrines you are proudly extolling - papal primacy being one of the biggies. They don't accept Purgatory, either, and see that as just another example of Rome's novel doctrines that were not believed always by everyone and everywhere.

The Scriptures were given to us so that we could have an objective AND authoritative resource to know truth from error. The Roman Catholic church is NOT the authority.

235 posted on 01/19/2015 2:40:19 PM PST by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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