Posted on 01/18/2015 8:33:58 AM PST by ADSUM
The Assumption of the Blessed Virgin Mary CUF
Issue: What does the Church teach concerning the Assumption of the Blessed Virgin Mary?
Response: The teaching is aptly summarized in the Catechism of the Catholic Church, no. 974:
The Most Blessed Virgin Mary, when the course of her earthly life was completed, was taken up [“assumed”] body and soul into the glory of heaven, where she already shares in the glory of her Son’s Resurrection, anticipating the resurrection of all members of His Body.
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“Jesus was the only sinless person to walk the earth.”
Didn’t Adam and Evewalk the earth as sinless people before the Fall? Why do you think God could not have created Mary sinless as a worthy mother for His Son?
I don’t agree with your “interpretation.”
Wow! There is a total lack of faith in a God who said He would accomplish His purpose even if He had to make the rocks cry out.
No. That what Catholics, has done with the assumption of Mary.
When you state that something DID happen, it's up to you to privide the proofs that it did. Say so is NOT proof and nobody is obligated to disprove say so or opinion.
That kind of "reasoning" for lack of a better term, would not hold up under scrutiny either in a court of law or scientific endeavor. Nor would Catolics accept it from non Catholics.
The only time it is expected to have validity is when proffered by Catholics in support of some unsupportable doctrine of theirs.
We’re ALL awful sinners in God’s eyes.
It comes with having a human father.
And the sin of the heart is just as much sin as the action.
And you’d have to take on Jesus if you want to atgue against that one.
Stellfish, I understand the word redemptrix to be a female redeemer. Jesus is refereed to as our redeemer based on the metaphor of “redemption” or buying back, paying for. Christ is the sacrificial lamb that redeemed us, paid for our sins. He accomplished that at Calvary. Christ was able to be the redeemer because He is GOD.
I have a hard time understanding how a human woman like Mary can be a co-redeemer unless, you consider her a “goddess”. What is it that qualifies her for this role? Yes, Mary played a very special role in the Word being made flesh, no argument there.
However, this “Bible” Christian who dares to wade into the profound aspects of Church theology and doctrine (as you said in your prior post), cannot find anywhere in the Word that speaks of Mary as being the sacrificial lamb, or redeemer or even taking a co-role along with her son.
The Holy Spirit calls Mary “ mother of JESUS” in Scripture.
The term “mother of God” is a human construct and not found anywhere in Scripture at all.
This one?
John 6:63 the spirit it is that is giving life; the flesh doth not profit anything; the sayings that I speak to you are spirit, and they are life;
Or this one?
Deuteronomy 12:23 Only be sure that thou eat not the blood:
Or maybe this re-confirmation of the prohibition?
Acts 15:29 That ye abstain from meats offered to idols, and from blood, and from things strangled, and from fornication: from which if ye keep yourselves, ye shall do well. Fare ye well.
Which one don't you agree with?
Jesus answered, “The work of God is this: to believe in the one he has sent.”
LOtsa assertions Here. Got any EVIDENCE?
Luke 7:50
Jesus said to the woman, “Your faith has saved you; go in peace.”
The text does NOT say what you've just claimed.
26 And in the sixth month the angel Gabriel was sent from God unto a city of Galilee, named Nazareth, 27 To a virgin espoused to a man whose name was Joseph, of the house of David; and the virgin's name was Mary.
28 And the angel came in unto her, and said, Hail, thou that art highly favoured, the Lord is with thee: blessed art thou among women.
29 And when she saw him, she was troubled at his saying, and cast in her mind what manner of salutation this should be.
30 And the angel said unto her, Fear not, Mary: for thou hast found favour with God. 31 And, behold, thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and bring forth a son, and shalt call his name JESUS. 32 He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David: 33 And he shall reign over the house of Jacob for ever; and of his kingdom there shall be no end.
34 Then said Mary unto the angel, How shall this be, seeing I know not a man?
35 And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God. 36 And, behold, thy cousin Elisabeth, she hath also conceived a son in her old age: and this is the sixth month with her, who was called barren. 37 For with God nothing shall be impossible.
38 And Mary said, Behold the handmaid of the Lord; be it unto me according to thy word. And the angel departed from her.
The angel told her how it was going down; he did not ask for, or need any approval from Mary.
Why ask hypotheticals?
The Book says ALL have sinned.
Does not Rome believe this?
Mary and Joseph paid a SIN offering in the temple.
Does this mean NOTHING to Rome?
Do you 'agree' with Jesus' answer to this question, "What MUST we do???"
Because Adam and Eve brought the sin nature into all mankind. Jesus was the only sinless person to walk this earth since.
Pretty sure no one figured it out until after the Church was founded....but hey.....we will all see after we die who is right and who is wrong.
This is NOT entirely about the text. It’s about text, tradition, revelation and scared ritual as handed down from Christ to Peter and his successors.
In John 21: 25
“But there are also many other things which Jesus did; which, if they were written every one, the world itself, I think, would not be able to contain the books that should be written”(Douay-Rheims Bible)
The books in the Bible did not fall from the skies. They were assembled under Petrine authority by the early Church fathers and theologians who chose to include some books and exclude others. This was the greatest authority ever bestowed to decide “what” is the Word of God and then conclude through the lips of John, that there were so any thing that were said and done that went unwritten.
The Assumption of Mary and co-redemptrix in our redemption through the Word made flesh is accepted by a constellation of the greatest theologians from Augustine to Aquinas to Neman to Benedict and by preeminent Protestant and Episcopalian theologians who have converted to Catholicism.
To play neophyte interpreter of scripture is not a task for pedestrian readers of scripture who cherry pick swatches of scripture and leave out the oral tradition.
I'll put my faith in Christ alone and not share that with Mary or any pagan infested "church".
I’m sure that Jesus LOVES your hatred of His Mother and the Church he founded. YIKES!! More Prayers for you.
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