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Ending Charitable Deductions to Feed the Leviathan State
Crisis Magazine ^ | 1/15/15 | John M. Grondelski

Posted on 01/16/2015 5:27:05 PM PST by BlatherNaut

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1 posted on 01/16/2015 5:27:06 PM PST by BlatherNaut
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His argument rests primarily upon the twin beliefs that the U.S. social safety net is too thin and that lost revenues from charitable contribution deductibility would be better spent on governmental social welfare programs.

Because public employees work so much harder, get paid so much less and are so much more efficient than those that work for charitable organizations.

/S (like I really need to tell you that this is sarcasm)

2 posted on 01/16/2015 5:32:24 PM PST by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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Not sure if I'm missing the point but it seems to me that the deduction is a concession by Leviathan that every sandwich you buy for a homeless person is one less that the government will (theoretically) have to buy.

You can't eliminate the deduction unless you eliminate the tax.

3 posted on 01/16/2015 5:33:15 PM PST by 9thLife ("Life is a military endeavor..." -- Pope Francis)
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Cardinal O’Connor of NYC wrote a book in which he disclosed that the cost of a Catholic education was 1/3 that of a public education. And that was back when a Catholic education was something, indeed.


4 posted on 01/16/2015 5:34:35 PM PST by 9thLife ("Life is a military endeavor..." -- Pope Francis)
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>> progressive Catholic magazine Commonweal

The Po-po is a progressive Catholic. I bet he subscribes to this Marxist rag.


5 posted on 01/16/2015 5:34:50 PM PST by Nervous Tick (There is no "allah" but satan, and mohammed was his demon-possessed tool.)
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To: Pontiac

Ending any kind of voluntary donation to charity or even restaurant tips have been a long time target of the Socialists.


6 posted on 01/16/2015 5:34:51 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (Rip it out by the roots.)
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The best argument in favor of eliminating the charitable deduction is that a lot of charities are little more than well-organized rackets.


7 posted on 01/16/2015 5:37:50 PM PST by Alberta's Child ("It doesn't work for me. I gotta have more cowbell!")
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

Even though Catholics are fairly dependable Democrat voters public employees are even more so.


8 posted on 01/16/2015 5:40:44 PM PST by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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Quigley is an idiot, a socialist idiot. When does the state have enough money? Never. Only with total control will the state’s lust for money and power be satiated. Even then the money will be worthless as no goods will be produced.


9 posted on 01/16/2015 5:41:17 PM PST by Fungi
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To: Alberta's Child

Government is the king of rackets.


10 posted on 01/16/2015 5:41:28 PM PST by Rodamala
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To: BlatherNaut

“His argument rests primarily upon the twin beliefs that the U.S. social safety net is too thin and that lost revenues from charitable contribution deductibility would be better spent on governmental social welfare programs.”

All after the Federal Leviathan takes its “cut” of the action naturally.


11 posted on 01/16/2015 5:45:35 PM PST by headstamp 2
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You may be on to something...


12 posted on 01/16/2015 5:45:36 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (Rip it out by the roots.)
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To: Alberta's Child

>> a lot of charities are little more than well-organized rackets.

The bulk of my charitable contributions go to my (Christian) church.

It is NOT!!! a “racket”.


13 posted on 01/16/2015 5:46:56 PM PST by Nervous Tick (There is no "allah" but satan, and mohammed was his demon-possessed tool.)
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“and that lost revenues from charitable contribution deductibility would be better spent on governmental social welfare programs.”

Because the federal government is so much more efficient at dispensing funds to the appropriate protected classes.


14 posted on 01/16/2015 5:47:35 PM PST by headstamp 2
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Trusting the IRS to do the right thing with your money is truly foolish. The USA has spent almost $20 TRILLION on the War on Poverty since LBJ had the bright idea of buying Black votes with taxpayer money. How did that turn out?


15 posted on 01/16/2015 5:47:50 PM PST by txrefugee
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Religious faith in government is a religion without separation of church and state.


16 posted on 01/16/2015 5:49:05 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Offend a Christian and he is obliged to pray for you. Offend a Muslim and he is obliged to kill you.)
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The Government is “too big to fail” and we will prove it by stealing or sucking the last dollar and drop of blood out of your mangy carcass. Or at least that’s how I understand this ‘professor’s’ contention.


17 posted on 01/16/2015 5:58:18 PM PST by The Working Man
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I agree that churches should not be exempt under the 501(c)3 rules because they never should’ve taken government largesse. God will provide for the purposes he intends. That said, true believers will give to their conviction no matter what.


18 posted on 01/16/2015 6:00:51 PM PST by WorkingClassFilth
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To: 9thLife
Not sure if I'm missing the point but it seems to me that the deduction is a concession by Leviathan that every sandwich you buy for a homeless person is one less that the government will (theoretically) have to buy.

Under Quigley's plan, taxpayers' discretionary charitable donations which are at present directed to churches, veterans' groups, or other qualified organizations would be sucked up by Leviathan to pay for government welfare programs.

19 posted on 01/16/2015 6:01:06 PM PST by BlatherNaut
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To: txrefugee
The USA has spent almost $20 TRILLION on the War on Poverty since LBJ had the bright idea of buying Black votes with taxpayer money. How did that turn out?

So?

What's your beef?
That's only an average of $40.8 Billion a year, unadjusted for inflation.

Obviously we have not spent enough yet, and are losing the 49-year old war. Poverty seems to have increased every year.

20 posted on 01/16/2015 6:01:34 PM PST by publius911 (Formerly Publius6961)
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