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The Once-born and the Twice-born
Man: The Dwelling Place of God ^ | Some time ago | A.W.Tozer

Posted on 01/16/2015 5:56:35 AM PST by metmom

CLASSIFICATION IS ONE OF THE MOST DIFFICULT of all tasks. Even in the realm of religion there are enough lights and shades to make it injudicious to draw too fine a line between men and men. If the religious world were composed of squares of solid black and solid white classification would be easy; but unfortunately it is not.

It is a grave error for us evangelicals to assume that the children of God are all in our communion and that all who are not associated with us are ipso facto enemies of the Lord. The Pharisees made that mistake and crucified Christ as a consequence.

With all this in mind, and leaning over backwards to be fair and charitable, there is yet one distinction which we dare make, which indeed we must make if we are to think the thoughts of God after Him and bring our beliefs into harmony with the Holy Scriptures. That distinction is the one which exists between two classes of human beings, the once-born and the twice-born.

That such a distinction does in fact exist was taught by our Lord with great plainness of speech, in contexts which preclude the possibility that He was merely speaking figuratively. "Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God," He said, and the whole chapter where these words are found confirms that He was speaking precisely, setting forth meanings as blunt and downright as it is possible for language to convey.

"Ye must be born again," said Christ. "That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit." This clear line of demarcation runs through the entire New Testament, quite literally dividing one human being from another and making a distinction as sharp as that which exists between different genera of the animal kingdom.

Just who belongs to one class and who to the other it is not always possible to judge, though the two kinds of life ordinarily separate from each other. Those who are twice-born crystallize around the Person of Christ and cluster together in companies, while the once-born are held together only by the ties of nature, aided by the ties of race or by common political and social interests.

Our Lord warned His disciples that they would be persecuted. "In the world ye shall have tribulation," He said, and "Blessed are they which are persecuted for righteousness' sake: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake."

These are only two of many passages of the New Testament warning of persecution or recording the fact of harassment and attack suffered by the followers of the Lord. This same idea runs through the entire Bible from the once-born Cain who slew the twice-born Abel to the Book of the Revelation where the end of human history comes in a burst of blood and fire.

That hostility exists between the once-born and the twice-born is known to every student of the Bible; the reason for it was stated by Christ when He said, "If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you." The rule was laid down by the apostle Paul when he wrote, "But as then he that was born after the flesh persecuted him that was born after the Spirit, even so it is now."

Difference of moral standards between the onceborn and the twice-born, and their opposite ways of life, may be contributing causes of this hostility; but the real cause lies deeper. There are two spirits abroad in the earth: the spirit that works in the children of disobedience and the Spirit of God. These two can never be reconciled in time or in eternity. The spirit that dwells in the once-born is forever opposed to the Spirit that inhabits the heart of the twice-born. This hostility began somewhere in the remote past before the creation of man and continues to this day. The modern effort to bring peace between these two spirits is not only futile but contrary to the moral laws of the universe.

To teach that the spirit of the once-born is at enmity with the Spirit of the twice-born is to bring down upon one's head every kind of violent abuse. No language is too bitter to hurl against the conceited bigot who would dare to draw such a line of distinction between men. Such malignant ideas are at odds with the brotherhood of man, says the once-born, and are held only by the apostles of disunity and hate. This mighty rage against the twice-born only serves to confirm the truth they teach. But this no one seems to notice.

What we need to restore power to the Christian testimony is not soft talk about brotherhood but an honest recognition that two human races occupy the earth simultaneously: a fallen race that sprang from the loins of Adam and a regenerate race that is born of the Spirit through the redemption which is in Christ Jesus.

To accept this truth requires a tough-mindedness and a spiritual maturity that modern Christians simply do not possess. To face up to it hardly contributes to that "peace of mind" after which our religious weaklings bleat so plaintively.

For myself, I long ago decided that I would rather know the truth than be happy in ignorance. If I cannot have both truth and happiness, give me truth. We'll have a long time to be happy in heaven.


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To: Mark17
Reset, calling it misplaced, is sugar coating it.

I'm honing my diplomatic lack of skill.
121 posted on 01/17/2015 7:44:57 AM PST by Resettozero
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To: ADSUM
>>Good luck when it comes to Judgement Day.<<

I am secure in Christ Jesus.

Romans 8:1 Therefore, there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus,

I have the guarantee of the Holy Spirit.

Ephesians 1:14 And you also were included in Christ when you heard the message of truth, the gospel of your salvation. When you believed, you were marked in him with a seal, the promised Holy Spirit, 15 who is a deposit guaranteeing our inheritance until the redemption of those who are God's possession--to the praise of his glory.

I wish that people would get out of that Catholic Church apostasy and study the word of God instead.

>>When you reject the teachings of the Catholic Church, you reject Jesus. Look it up, it is in the Bible.<<

Nope, it's not there.

122 posted on 01/17/2015 7:48:53 AM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: Zuriel; metmom

It appears you are trying to be cute by half and it’s not working for you. I think you need to restudy all those verses again and look closely at the Greek words and their intent.


123 posted on 01/17/2015 7:59:05 AM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: Mark17
Water baptism is nothing more than an outward sign of a changed person.

That particular November Sunday at age 32 when I accepted Jesus as Christ and Lord of all (including me), I greatly desired to be baptized that very day in a cold mountain river along with other new and re-committed believers in Lord Jesus Christ. What a day that was!

The water baptism was a sign of my sincerity of belief and committment to follow Lord Jesus Christ from that day forward but was not viewed by me or anyone present as an action on my part that saved me from my sins and the second death.
124 posted on 01/17/2015 7:59:40 AM PST by Resettozero
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To: ADSUM; mrobisr
>>So you are calling Jesus a liar. That must make you a sinner.<<

We are calling the Catholic Church corruption of scripture a lie. If Jesus truly ate blood and encouraged others to do so He sinned. How about you address that instead of making evasive comments?

125 posted on 01/17/2015 8:02:23 AM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: Resettozero
I'm honing my diplomatic lack of skill.

:-)

126 posted on 01/17/2015 8:02:33 AM PST by Mark17 (Weary and worn, facing for sinners, death on the cross, that He might save them from endless loss)
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To: Zuriel; mrobisr

Acts 2:38 is talking about a public expression of an already accomplished spiritual truth. Stop playing the “did God really say” game.


127 posted on 01/17/2015 8:05:25 AM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: Resettozero; metmom; daniel1212
The water baptism was a sign of my sincerity of belief and committment to follow Lord Jesus Christ from that day forward but was not viewed by me or anyone present as an action on my part that saved me from my sins and the second death.

Roger that. I bet a dip in that frigid water was literally breath taking, and an experience you will never forget. I was a former catholic, and got saved about 6 months before I went to Vietnam. I actually stayed with the catholic church for awhile. I went to mass a few more times, but as I read my Catholic Bible, I could see that even the catholic Bible didn't agree with the catholic church. I replaced it with another Bible. I was baptized in the swimming pool at Bien Hoa Air Base, Vietnam, by a Southern Baptist Chaplain, even though, at that time, I did not even know what a Southern Baptist was, because as a catholic, I knew nothing about any other denominations. I was 21 at the time. I kind of thought the whole world revolved around me, and I thought if I, as a catholic, could find the truth of the real Jesus, as opposed to the Jesus of the cult religions, that millions of people in the catholic church would come out of it and be saved. Obviously, that did not happen, and unfortunately, on these threads, I see the cults are still alive and well. Oh well, they have been warned.

128 posted on 01/17/2015 8:21:12 AM PST by Mark17 (Weary and worn, facing for sinners, death on the cross, that He might save them from endless loss)
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To: ADSUM; Resettozero; metmom
Luke 10:16 "Whoever listens to you listens to me; whoever rejects you rejects me; but whoever rejects me rejects him who sent me."

Well now! There we proof from scripture that Catholic Church has rejected Christ. They have clearly rejected what the apostles taught. Here's on: Acts 15:29 You are to abstain from food sacrificed to idols, and from blood, from the meat of strangled animals and from sexual immorality. You will do well to avoid these things.

And he posts another verse to prove that Catholic Church has rejected what the apostles taught.

Matthew 28:20 and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age."

Paul said anyone teaching something they didn't teach was to be considered accursed. Not on Catholic can show that the apostles taught the assumption of Mary yet the Catholic Church teaches that.

129 posted on 01/17/2015 8:22:56 AM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: CynicalBear
Stop playing the “did God really say” game.

I wonder where that "game" originated? The Garden of Eden maybe?

130 posted on 01/17/2015 8:23:16 AM PST by Mark17 (Weary and worn, facing for sinners, death on the cross, that He might save them from endless loss)
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To: Mark17
>>I wonder where that "game" originated? The Garden of Eden maybe?<<

And it's still being played through many willing followers.

131 posted on 01/17/2015 8:26:21 AM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: CynicalBear

Well I hope God is secure in you.

Scripture, by which we mean the Old and New Testaments, was inspired by God (2 Tim. 3:16). The Holy Spirit guided the biblical authors to write what he wanted them to write. Since God is the principal author of the Bible, and since God is truth itself (John 14:6) and cannot teach anything untrue, the Bible is free from all error in everything it asserts to be true.

Some Christians claim, “The Bible is all I need,” but this notion is not taught in the Bible itself. In fact, the Bible teaches the contrary idea (2 Pet. 1:20–21, 3:15–16). The “Bible alone” theory was not believed by anyone in the early Church.

It is new, having arisen only in the 1500s during the Protestant Reformation. The theory is a “tradition of men” that nullifies the Word of God, distorts the true role of the Bible, and undermines the authority of the Church Jesus established (Mark 7:1–8).

Although popular with many “Bible Christian” churches, the “Bible alone” theory simply does not work in practice. Historical experience disproves it. Each year we see additional splintering among “Bible-believing” religions.

Today there are tens of thousands of competing denominations, each insisting its interpretation of the Bible is the correct one. The resulting divisions have caused untold confusion among millions of sincere but misled Christians.

Just open up the Yellow Pages of your telephone book and see how many different denominations are listed, each claiming to go by the “Bible alone,” but no two of them agreeing on exactly what the Bible means.

We know this for sure: The Holy Spirit cannot be the author of this confusion (1 Cor. 14:33). God cannot lead people to contradictory beliefs because his truth is one. The conclusion? The “Bible alone” theory must be false.


132 posted on 01/17/2015 8:26:53 AM PST by ADSUM
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To: Mark17

I am sorry that you have rejected the Catholic Church and her teachings.

I haven’t read any truth here that logically refutes the teachings of the Catholic Church. I have pointed out various passages of the Bible that the non- Catholics here do not accept and accordingly reject the Word of Jesus.

God’s Peace be with you.


133 posted on 01/17/2015 8:37:00 AM PST by ADSUM
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To: ADSUM
God’s Peace be with you.

It is with me, and I hope you find Jesus Christ as I have.

134 posted on 01/17/2015 8:39:59 AM PST by Mark17 (Weary and worn, facing for sinners, death on the cross, that He might save them from endless loss)
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To: ADSUM
So you ignore the teachings of Jesus and His Church at your peril.

 

John 6:28-29

Then they asked him, “What must we do to do the works God requires?”

Jesus answered, “The work of God is this: to believe in the one he has sent.”


1 John 3:21-24

Dear friends, if our hearts do not condemn us, we have confidence before God and receive from him anything we ask, because we keep his commands and do what pleases him. And this is his command: to believe in the name of his Son, Jesus Christ, and to love one another as he commanded us. The one who keeps God’s commands lives in him, and he in them. And this is how we know that he lives in us: We know it by the Spirit he gave us.


135 posted on 01/17/2015 8:52:45 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: ADSUM
So you ignore the teachings of Jesus and His Church at your peril.


 
 
 
 

 
Micah 6:8
He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the LORD require of you?
To act justly and to love mercy and to walk humbly with your God.


John 6:28-29
Then they asked him, "What must we do to do the works God requires?
 Jesus answered, "The work of God is this: to believe in the one he has sent."


1 John 3:21-23
Dear friends, if our hearts do not condemn us, we have confidence before God and receive from him anything we ask, because we keep his commands and do what pleases him.
And this is his command: to believe in the name of his Son, Jesus Christ, and to love one another as he commanded us.


James 1:27
Religion that God our Father accepts as pure and faultless is this: to look after orphans and widows in their distress and to keep oneself from being polluted by the world.
 

 
 
 

136 posted on 01/17/2015 8:53:18 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: ADSUM
So you ignore the teachings of Jesus and His Church at your peril.


Acts 15

The Council at Jerusalem
 1 Certain people came down from Judea to Antioch and were teaching the believers: “Unless you are circumcised, according to the custom taught by Moses, you cannot be saved.” 2 This brought Paul and Barnabas into sharp dispute and debate with them. So Paul and Barnabas were appointed, along with some other believers, to go up to Jerusalem to see the apostles and elders about this question. 3 The church sent them on their way, and as they traveled through Phoenicia and Samaria, they told how the Gentiles had been converted. This news made all the believers very glad. 4 When they came to Jerusalem, they were welcomed by the church and the apostles and elders, to whom they reported everything God had done through them.

 5 Then some of the believers who belonged to the party of the Pharisees stood up and said, “The Gentiles must be circumcised and required to keep the law of Moses.”

 6 The apostles and elders met to consider this question. 7 After much discussion, Peter got up and addressed them: “Brothers, you know that some time ago God made a choice among you that the Gentiles might hear from my lips the message of the gospel and believe. 8 God, who knows the heart, showed that he accepted them by giving the Holy Spirit to them, just as he did to us. 9 He did not discriminate between us and them, for he purified their hearts by faith. 10 Now then, why do you try to test God by putting on the necks of Gentiles a yoke that neither we nor our ancestors have been able to bear? 11 No! We believe it is through the grace of our Lord Jesus that we are saved, just as they are.”

 12 The whole assembly became silent as they listened to Barnabas and Paul telling about the signs and wonders God had done among the Gentiles through them. 13 When they finished, James spoke up. “Brothers,” he said, “listen to me. 14 Simon[a] has described to us how God first intervened to choose a people for his name from the Gentiles. 15 The words of the prophets are in agreement with this, as it is written:

 16 “‘After this I will return
   and rebuild David’s fallen tent.
Its ruins I will rebuild,
   and I will restore it,
17 that the rest of mankind may seek the Lord,
   even all the Gentiles who bear my name,
says the Lord, who does these things’[b]
 18 things known from long ago.[c]

 19 “It is my judgment, therefore, that we should not make it difficult for the Gentiles who are turning to God. 20 Instead we should write to them, telling them to abstain from food polluted by idols, from sexual immorality, from the meat of strangled animals and from blood. 21 For the law of Moses has been preached in every city from the earliest times and is read in the synagogues on every Sabbath.”

The Council’s Letter to Gentile Believers
 22 Then the apostles and elders, with the whole church, decided to choose some of their own men and send them to Antioch with Paul and Barnabas. They chose Judas (called Barsabbas) and Silas, men who were leaders among the believers. 23 With them they sent the following letter:

   The apostles and elders, your brothers,

   To the Gentile believers in Antioch, Syria and Cilicia:

   Greetings.

 24 We have heard that some went out from us without our authorization and disturbed you, troubling your minds by what they said. 25 So we all agreed to choose some men and send them to you with our dear friends Barnabas and Paul— 26 men who have risked their lives for the name of our Lord Jesus Christ. 27 Therefore we are sending Judas and Silas to confirm by word of mouth what we are writing. 28 It seemed good to the Holy Spirit and to us not to burden you with anything beyond the following requirements: 29 You are to abstain from food sacrificed to idols, from blood, from the meat of strangled animals and from sexual immorality. You will do well to avoid these things.

   Farewell.

 30 So the men were sent off and went down to Antioch, where they gathered the church together and delivered the letter. 31 The people read it and were glad for its encouraging message. 32 Judas and Silas, who themselves were prophets, said much to encourage and strengthen the believers. 33 After spending some time there, they were sent off by the believers with the blessing of peace to return to those who had sent them. [34] [d] 35 But Paul and Barnabas remained in Antioch, where they and many others taught and preached the word of the Lord.

Disagreement Between Paul and Barnabas
 36 Some time later Paul said to Barnabas, “Let us go back and visit the believers in all the towns where we preached the word of the Lord and see how they are doing.” 37 Barnabas wanted to take John, also called Mark, with them, 38 but Paul did not think it wise to take him, because he had deserted them in Pamphylia and had not continued with them in the work. 39 They had such a sharp disagreement that they parted company. Barnabas took Mark and sailed for Cyprus, 40 but Paul chose Silas and left, commended by the believers to the grace of the Lord. 41 He went through Syria and Cilicia, strengthening the churches.
137 posted on 01/17/2015 8:53:54 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: ADSUM

I have pointed out various passages of the Bible that the Catholics here do not accept and accordingly reject the Word of Jesus.


138 posted on 01/17/2015 8:55:06 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: CynicalBear

Your comment: “We are calling the Catholic Church corruption of scripture a lie. If Jesus truly ate blood and encouraged others to do so He sinned. How about you address that instead of making evasive comments?”

The Catholic Church has a history of truth in matters of faith for 2000 years that God will not allow it to err. You are not able to prove otherwise and do not respond logically.

Read the Bible and the teachings of the Catholic Church and stop the spin with no substance. You state that Christ sinned by giving us HIS BODY AND BLOOD. You are wrong and that is blasphemy. The Old Covenant was completed and Jesus established the New Covenant.

Regarding the Eucharist. Reread my post # 55. There is scientific evidence of the body and blood in the Eucharist. Why do you reject the specific words of Christ in his gift to us of the Body and Blood in Holy Communion? As Christ indicated in the Bible those that did not believe stopped being followers of Jesus Christ.

You may claim to be a follower of Jesus Christ, but you reject Him and His Church.

Wake up, Repent and accept Jesus Christ and follow HIM.


139 posted on 01/17/2015 9:00:53 AM PST by ADSUM
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To: ADSUM
You are not able to prove otherwise and do not respond logically.

Bob; we CAN and we HAVE.

Psst...

We really like your current pope!!!

140 posted on 01/17/2015 9:07:34 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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