And in light of this,
“Even if the Pope were Satan incarnate, we ought not to raise up our heads against him, but calmly lie down to rest on his bosom... He who rebels against our Father is condemned to death, for that which we do to him we do to Christ: we honor Christ if we honor the Pope; we dishonor Christ if we dishonor the Pope.”
[St, Catherine of Siena, SCS p 201-202, p222 (quoted in Apostolic Digest, by Michael Matauc, Book 5, “The Book of Obedience”, Chapter 1]
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And in finding a link to the post, I ran across this interesting comment,.....
http://www.ewtn.com/vexperts/showmessage_print.asp?number=304075&language=en
EWTN Catholic Q&A
Roman and seminary search
Question from Bill Foley on 09-10-2002:
Roman wrote “unity with the pope at the expense of Catholic doctrine.” It seems to me that he is really not seeking a seminary that is truly Catholic, that is, one totally faithful to the papal magisterium. Please note what Saint John Bosco said to his spiritual sons as he was dying: “Do not ever forget these three things: devotion to the Blessed Sacrament, devotion to Mary Help of Christians, and devotion to the Holy Father.” Saint Catherine of Siena, a Doctor of the Church, has written: “Even if the pope were Satan incarnate, we ought not to raise up our heads against him, but calmly lie down to rest on his bosom. He who rebels against our father is condemned, for that which we do to him we do to Christ; we honor Christ if we honor the pope; we dishonor Christ if we dishonor the pope.” Roman is also confusing St. Mary’s Seminary in Baltimore with Mount St. Mary’s in Emitsburg. The Holy Father is the principle of unity in the Catholic Church; if one is separated from the Holy Father, then one is separated from the will of God. I suggest that Roman go into the document library of EWTN, enter “papacy” as keyword, and then read the wonderful essay by the late Cardinal Gilroy re the papal magisterium. This wonderful son of the Church refers to the papacy as a “sacrament of truth,” which it is.
Answer by Matthew Bunson on 09-10-2002:
Thank you. Such readings are useful for all of us.
That is the most anti-Christian thing they could think of I suppose. So, this person is saying even if the Pope was the anti-Christ that he should be followed, because Christ would want us to follow the anti-Christ?
ridiculous
blasphemy. Christ is the one we are to follow, not the Pope.
Nice work metmom!!!
“...Not one to mince words, Catherine’s letters moved popes and politicians to action. In urging Gregory XI to leave Avignon and re-establish the Papacy in Rome she wrote:
“Since [Christ] has given you authority and you have accepted it, you ought to be using the power and strength that is yours. If you don’t intend to use it, it would be better and more to God’s honor and the good of your soul to resign….If I were in your place, I would be afraid of incurring divine judgment.” Later in her letter she continued, “Cursed be you, for time and power were entrusted to you and you did not use them!”...
http://catholicexchange.com/fearless-and-fiery-the-letters-of-catherine-of-siena
.......“Even if the Pope were Satan incarnate, we ought not to raise up our heads against him, but calmly lie down to rest on his bosom... He who rebels against our Father is condemned to death, for that which we do to him we do to Christ: we honor Christ if we honor the Pope; we dishonor Christ if we dishonor the Pope.”........
What utter insanity! ...beyond sickness and plays right into the hands of the enemy himself. Cannot believe anyone would even consider such rubbish.....those who do are equally as diabolical.
[St, Catherine of Siena, SCS p 201-202, p222 (quoted in Apostolic Digest, by Michael Matauc, Book 5, “The Book of Obedience”, Chapter 1]
Looks like a BUNCH of our FR Catholics are in TROUBLE!!!