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What Do the Scriptures Mean which speak of “the flesh?”
Archdiocese of Washington ^ | 01-08-15 | Msgr. Charles Pope

Posted on 01/09/2015 7:27:11 AM PST by Salvation

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To: tired&retired

Good post. I can see what you are saying.


81 posted on 01/09/2015 3:36:03 PM PST by defconw (If not now, WHEN?)
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To: Vendome

LOL!


82 posted on 01/09/2015 3:37:46 PM PST by defconw (If not now, WHEN?)
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To: defconw
If God didn’t have a sense of humor he wouldn’t have made people.

God made laughter, hahs, giggles, snorts, guffaws, smirks, sighs, tsks, moues, nostril flares, hold-nose, sneers, head shakes/nods, curled lip, one-side-lip lift, pursing lips, whistling, shrugged shoulders, rolling eyes, winks, crossed eyes, thumbs in ears with waggling of fingers...and of course the one-digit expression...an entire array+ of human sounds, movements and expressions that are NOT words.
Remember the the "shame on you" with taking one forefinger and stroking the other forefinger outwards, away form the finger, several times?
Amazing how much we can express without SAYING a single word.

A sense of humor also requires an I.Q. Very retarded people don't understand jokes. So, senses of humor depend on the joke tellers and hearers, culture, age, education, I.Q., etc.
It's very interesting, a SENSE of humor, I think.

83 posted on 01/09/2015 3:43:21 PM PST by cloudmountain
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To: cloudmountain

Thank God we have one. I pity the ones that don’t. My absolute favorite image of Jesus is the laughing one.


84 posted on 01/09/2015 3:55:20 PM PST by defconw (If not now, WHEN?)
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To: Salvation

Whatever happened to markomalley? He used to post these posts, but I have not seen him around in months...since before the Synod.


85 posted on 01/09/2015 4:41:26 PM PST by piusv
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To: defconw

I’ve been to Jasna Gora and seen the Black Madonna. It was crowded; I think I counted 30 something buses. But we were able to see everything.


86 posted on 01/09/2015 5:35:57 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

Nice! I would love to visit Poland.


87 posted on 01/09/2015 5:38:42 PM PST by defconw (If not now, WHEN?)
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To: Old Yeller

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Protestants and Catholics would not even have access to Scripture if it were not for the Reformation. **

Not true. When was the first Bible printed by Gutenberg?


88 posted on 01/09/2015 5:39:08 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Old Yeller

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Protestants and Catholics would not even have access to Scripture if it were not for the Reformation. **

And which translation? Language?


89 posted on 01/09/2015 5:39:34 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: roamer_1

That was law added to the torah.. it was a tradition of works.. if He had broken the law He could not have been a sinless savior


90 posted on 01/09/2015 7:17:40 PM PST by RnMomof7 (Ga 4:16)
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To: Grateful2God; roamer_1; metmom
He and His Apostles ate grain off the stalks on the Sabbath. That was a sin to the Jews, too. The Pharisees called them on it.

No the law against consuming blood goes back to the OT law given BY GOD

Gen 9..God gave men permission to eat meat BUT they were told " you must not eat meat that has its lifeblood still in it”

The legalisms of the Sabbath were not given by God..they were man made rules (like not eating meat on Friday..or "holy days of obligation").. not laws from God.. ceremonial laws of men

Jesus was making that point when he broke the grain off.. and when he healed the blind man with his spit ( considered sin by the pharisees), He was teaching the difference between legalist tradition and Gods law ...

God had made the law against drinking blood.. He would not break HIS law..that would be a sin..and he would then fail at being a sinless Savior

91 posted on 01/09/2015 7:28:45 PM PST by RnMomof7 (Ga 4:16)
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To: metmom
He was doing alright until he suggested religious activity as a way to combat the flesh.

That my friend is a very Catholic solution to everything

The only way to deal with it is for it to die.

They do not understand that

92 posted on 01/09/2015 7:30:21 PM PST by RnMomof7 (Ga 4:16)
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To: cloudmountain
It is a sin to eat blood. God forbade it in Scripture, including BEFORE the Law was given and it was reiterated again in the NT by the Council at Jerusalem, the first recorded church council.

Therefore, since God forbade it, when someone does it they are disobeying God. ie SINNING.

Don't eat the blood, the life is in the blood

Genesis 9:4 But you shall not eat flesh with its life , that is, its blood.

Leviticus 3:17 It shall be a statute forever throughout your generations, in all your dwelling places, that you eat neither fat nor blood.”

Leviticus 7:26-27 Moreover, you shall eat no blood whatever, whether of fowl or of animal, in any of your dwelling places. Whoever eats any blood, that person shall be cut off from his people.”

Leviticus 17:10-14 “If any one of the house of Israel or of the strangers who sojourn among them eats any blood, I will set my face against that person who eats blood and will cut him off from among his people. For the life of the flesh is in the blood, and I have given it for you on the altar to make atonement for your souls, for it is the blood that makes atonement by the life. Therefore I have said to the people of Israel, No person among you shall eat blood, neither shall any stranger who sojourns among you eat blood.

“Any one also of the people of Israel, or of the strangers who sojourn among them, who takes in hunting any beast or bird that may be eaten shall pour out its blood and cover it with earth. For the life of every creature is its blood: its blood is its life. Therefore I have said to the people of Israel, You shall not eat the blood of any creature, for the life of every creature is its blood. Whoever eats it shall be cut off.

Leviticus 19:26 “You shall not eat any flesh with the blood in it. You shall not interpret omens or tell fortunes.

Deuteronomy 12:16 Only you shall not eat the blood ; you shall pour it out on the earth like water.

Deuteronomy 12:23 Only be sure that you do not eat the blood, for the blood is the life , and you shall not eat the life with the flesh.

Deuteronomy 15:23 Only you shall not eat its blood; you shall pour it out on the ground like water.

Acts 15:12-29 And all the assembly fell silent, and they listened to Barnabas and Paul as they related what signs and wonders God had done through them among the Gentiles. After they finished speaking, James replied, “Brothers, listen to me. Simeon has related how God first visited the Gentiles, to take from them a people for his name. And with this the words of the prophets agree, just as it is written,

“‘After this I will return, and I will rebuild the tent of David that has fallen; I will rebuild its ruins, and I will restore it, that the remnant of mankind may seek the Lord, and all the Gentiles who are called by my name, says the Lord, who makes these things known from of old.’

Therefore my judgment is that we should not trouble those of the Gentiles who turn to God, but should write to them to abstain from the things polluted by idols, and from sexual immorality, and from what has been strangled, and from blood. For from ancient generations Moses has had in every city those who proclaim him, for he is read every Sabbath in the synagogues.”

Then it seemed good to the apostles and the elders, with the whole church, to choose men from among them and send them to Antioch with Paul and Barnabas. They sent Judas called Barsabbas, and Silas, leading men among the brothers, with the following letter:

“The brothers, both the apostles and the elders, to the brothers who are of the Gentiles in Antioch and Syria and Cilicia, greetings. Since we have heard that some persons have gone out from us and troubled you with words, unsettling your minds, although we gave them no instructions, it has seemed good to us, having come to one accord, to choose men and send them to you with our beloved Barnabas and Paul, men who have risked their lives for the name of our Lord Jesus Christ. We have therefore sent Judas and Silas, who themselves will tell you the same things by word of mouth. For it has seemed good to the Holy Spirit and to us to lay on you no greater burden than these requirements: that you abstain from what has been sacrificed to idols, and from blood, and from what has been strangled, and from sexual immorality. If you keep yourselves from these, you will do well. Farewell.”

The Council at Jerusalem Acts 15 deals with that very thing. The Council at Jerusalem dealt with the Judaizers of their day and this is the recorded outcome.

Acts 15:1-29 But some men came down from Judea and were teaching the brothers, “Unless you are circumcised according to the custom of Moses, you cannot be saved.” And after Paul and Barnabas had no small dissension and debate with them, Paul and Barnabas and some of the others were appointed to go up to Jerusalem to the apostles and the elders about this question. So, being sent on their way by the church, they passed through both Phoenicia and Samaria, describing in detail the conversion of the Gentiles, and brought great joy to all the brothers. When they came to Jerusalem, they were welcomed by the church and the apostles and the elders, and they declared all that God had done with them. 5 But some believers who belonged to the party of the Pharisees rose up and said, “It is necessary to circumcise them and to order them to keep the law of Moses.”

The apostles and the elders were gathered together to consider this matter. And after there had been much debate, Peter stood up and said to them, “Brothers, you know that in the early days God made a choice among you, that by my mouth the Gentiles should hear the word of the gospel and believe. And God, who knows the heart, bore witness to them, by giving them the Holy Spirit just as he did to us, and he made no distinction between us and them, having cleansed their hearts by faith. Now, therefore, why are you putting God to the test by placing a yoke on the neck of the disciples that neither our fathers nor we have been able to bear? But we believe that we will be saved through the grace of the Lord Jesus, just as they will.

And all the assembly fell silent, and they listened to Barnabas and Paul as they related what signs and wonders God had done through them among the Gentiles. After they finished speaking, James replied, “Brothers, listen to me. Simeon has related how God first visited the Gentiles, to take from them a people for his name. And with this the words of the prophets agree, just as it is written,

“‘After this I will return, and I will rebuild the tent of David that has fallen; I will rebuild its ruins, and I will restore it, that the remnant of mankind may seek the Lord, and all the Gentiles who are called by my name, says the Lord, who makes these things known from of old.’

Therefore my judgment is that we should not trouble those of the Gentiles who turn to God, but should write to them to abstain from the things polluted by idols, and from sexual immorality, and from what has been strangled, and from blood. For from ancient generations Moses has had in every city those who proclaim him, for he is read every Sabbath in the synagogues.”

Then it seemed good to the apostles and the elders, with the whole church, to choose men from among them and send them to Antioch with Paul and Barnabas. They sent Judas called Barsabbas, and Silas, leading men among the brothers, with the following letter: “The brothers, both the apostles and the elders, to the brothers who are of the Gentiles in Antioch and Syria and Cilicia, greetings. Since we have heard that some persons have gone out from us and troubled you with words, unsettling your minds, although we gave them no instructions, it has seemed good to us, having come to one accord, to choose men and send them to you with our beloved Barnabas and Paul, men who have risked their lives for the name of our Lord Jesus Christ. We have therefore sent Judas and Silas, who themselves will tell you the same things by word of mouth. For it has seemed good to the Holy Spirit and to us to lay on you no greater burden than these requirements: that you abstain from what has been sacrificed to idols, and from blood, and from what has been strangled, and from sexual immorality. If you keep yourselves from these, you will do well. Farewell.”

Hebrews 9:22 Indeed, under the law almost everything is purified with blood, and without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness of sins.

93 posted on 01/09/2015 7:36:43 PM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: cloudmountain
Discuss the issues all you want, but do not make it personal.

Also, when you mention another Freeper in a post, you should ping them as a courtesy.

95 posted on 01/09/2015 8:50:43 PM PST by Religion Moderator
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To: Grateful2God
Great pic of the Ornithorhynchus anatinus!
Ain't s/he cute?
96 posted on 01/09/2015 8:50:45 PM PST by cloudmountain
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To: Religion Moderator
True enough.
She SEEMS to keep track of all my posts about Holy Communion, but ... your point is well taken. I WILL get a screed from her, but, that's all part of it, isn't it?
97 posted on 01/09/2015 8:52:32 PM PST by cloudmountain
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To: cloudmountain

When you post on “open” Religion Forum threads, expect replies.


98 posted on 01/09/2015 8:54:11 PM PST by Religion Moderator
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To: Religion Moderator

You might at LEAST give me a chance to ping her before you removed it. But no, you didn’t give me that chance, did you?


99 posted on 01/09/2015 8:58:27 PM PST by cloudmountain
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To: defconw
Thank God we have one. I pity the ones that don’t. My absolute favorite image of Jesus is the laughing one.

Yes, that would be a good one.
I like to picture Jesus surrounded by children. His love for them would have EMANATED from Him.

100 posted on 01/09/2015 9:02:30 PM PST by cloudmountain
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