Posted on 01/09/2015 5:43:56 AM PST by Gamecock
No, but PETER did.
If that’s not true, there’s no reason to believe any of it. If that’s not true,
Why make this out to be something it is not?
Initially I was thinking you might be a mainline Protestant, but now I’m guessing you’re Catholic.>>>>>>>>
If you want to make it personal, it can be a two way street.
Seeing as "holy men of God spoke as they were moved by the Holy Spirit", ALL of Scripture is important to a believer. It ALL is given to us so that we may be complete, equipped for every good work.
just as also our beloved brother Paul, according to the wisdom given him, wrote to you, as also in all his letters, speaking in them of these things, in which are some things hard to understand, which the untaught and unstable distort, as they do also the rest of the Scriptures, to their own destruction. (2 Peter 2:15,16)
It ALL is given to us so that we may be complete, equipped for every good work.
just as also our beloved brother Paul, according to the wisdom given him, wrote to you, as also in all his letters, speaking in them of these things, in which are some things hard to understand, which the untaught and unstable distort, as they do also the rest of the Scriptures, to their own destruction. (2 Peter 2:15,16)
He don`t, he said Paul`s letters.
as they do the other Scriptures, to their own destruction
Peter had been talking about scripture from the old testament so it is doubtful to me if he was calling Paul`s letters scripture.
Or don’t you consider the Holy Spirit part of the Godhead?
As the Apostle John concluded in his gospel:
Jesus performed many other signs in the presence of his disciples, which are not recorded in this book. But these are written that you may believe that Jesus is the Messiah, the Son of God, and that by believing you may have life in his name. (John 20:30,31)
Jesus did many other things as well. If every one of them were written down, I suppose that even the whole world would not have room for the books that would be written. (John 21:25)
Peter said, "as they do the other Scriptures", that phrase means he was calling Paul's writings Scripture, too. Peter was talking about ALL Scripture - including what was STILL ongoing revelation. Are you contending that the Apostles Peter, John, Paul, James and Jude were NOT writing Holy Spirit-inspired Scripture which was received as from God by the first Christians?
But these are written that you may believe that Jesus is the Messiah, the Son of God, and that by believing you may have life in his name. (John 20:30,31)
But these are written that you will believe that Jesus is the messiah, they were written and we believe.
No one here has denied that anyone should NOT read what Jesus said>>>>>>>>>
Here is my comment
That is why Christians need to spend more time reading the four Gospels.
I did not say we should not read anything else, are people offended with something Jesus said?
The gospel is all we need for our salvation, the apostles preached that gospel in their own way.
Any one believing we need something besides Jesus maybe should read the gospels again.
that phrase means he was calling Paul’s writings Scripture, too.
Are you contending that the Apostles Peter, John, Paul, James and Jude were NOT writing Holy Spirit-inspired Scripture which was received as from God by the first Christians?
John was in the spirit on the Lords day and given the things to write by an angel of god.
Peter was obviously shown by the holy spirit that this earth would some day melt with fervent heat.
It is not likely that even with Paul`s education that he would have known about Christ and his first fruits with out guidance from the holy spirit.
But no, I am not convinced every thing they wrote in the epistles was directed by the holy spirit.
I don't know of any who don't.
I believe what Jesus said has priority, but only if there is a contradiction.
I have been reading the New Testament, pretty much everyday for about 45 years. I haven't noticed any contradictions yet. If you have, then please point it out to me and the other Bible specialists here. To the best of my knowledge, none of them have seen contradictions either, but I am sure they can answer for themselves.
“But no, I am not convinced every thing they wrote in the epistles was directed by the holy spirit.”
So do you discard all of the Epistles? If not, how do you decide what was directed by the Holy Spirit?
If that is true, and I don't think it is, but if it is, which written passages are not directed by the Holy Spirit? Is it different verses in the epistles? Is it full epistles? Is it certain chapters in certain epistles? Who gets to make the decision of which verses/chapters/books of the Epistles are not inspired by the Holy Spirit. Try reading Josh McDowell's books, evidence that demands a verdict and more evidence that demands a verdict or other books on apologetics. You might come away with a different point of view. My opinion is, either the entire New Testament is inspired by the Holy Spirit, or none of it is.
Absolutely, bro.
Jesus' direct reproof to the Devil:
"But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God" (Mt. 4:4 AV, cf. Lk. 4:4) (my emphases, "written" is in the perfect tense, that which is written stands, and with continuing force and effect).
It is the words recorded that are inspired, not the writer. Even, for instance, in 1 Cor. 7:6 and also v. 25 it is still the writing that is both moved by/God-breathed that is both prompted and selected for retention by the Holy Ghost, and is never, no not ever, to be diminished, augmented, nor overridden by the traditions or commandments of mankind--no patristic "father" nor Magisterium; and no, not even the "Pope" himself pretending to speak ex cathedra.
And by all means, no translators of hundreds of modern versions using illegitimate hermeneutics and arising from the synthetic, corrupted, ever-changing "critical Greek text" first compiled by Westcott and his student F. J. A. Hort a century and a half ago.
And lives for the justification and reconciliation of regenerated believer-disciple-priests before The Father.
Evasion of answering duly noted.
Genesis 3:1 Now the serpent was more crafty than any other beast of the field that the Lord God had made. He said to the woman, “Did God actually say,
So on what basis do you make that evaluation?
You do realize, don't you, that that is the very thing Protestants are accused of doing? Picking and choosing what Scripture they want and discarding the rest?
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