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To: ravenwolf; boatbums; metmom; Springfield Reformer; aMorePerfectUnion; imardmd1; Elsie; ...
But no, I am not convinced every thing they wrote in the epistles was directed by the holy spirit.

If that is true, and I don't think it is, but if it is, which written passages are not directed by the Holy Spirit? Is it different verses in the epistles? Is it full epistles? Is it certain chapters in certain epistles? Who gets to make the decision of which verses/chapters/books of the Epistles are not inspired by the Holy Spirit. Try reading Josh McDowell's books, evidence that demands a verdict and more evidence that demands a verdict or other books on apologetics. You might come away with a different point of view. My opinion is, either the entire New Testament is inspired by the Holy Spirit, or none of it is.

55 posted on 01/09/2015 11:58:16 PM PST by Mark17 ( Few his gift of grace receive Lonely people live in every city men who face a dark and lonely grave)
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. . . either the entire New Testament is inspired by the Holy Spirit, or none of it is.

Absolutely, bro.

Jesus' direct reproof to the Devil:

"But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God" (Mt. 4:4 AV, cf. Lk. 4:4) (my emphases, "written" is in the perfect tense, that which is written stands, and with continuing force and effect).

It is the words recorded that are inspired, not the writer. Even, for instance, in 1 Cor. 7:6 and also v. 25 it is still the writing that is both moved by/God-breathed that is both prompted and selected for retention by the Holy Ghost, and is never, no not ever, to be diminished, augmented, nor overridden by the traditions or commandments of mankind--no patristic "father" nor Magisterium; and no, not even the "Pope" himself pretending to speak ex cathedra.

And by all means, no translators of hundreds of modern versions using illegitimate hermeneutics and arising from the synthetic, corrupted, ever-changing "critical Greek text" first compiled by Westcott and his student F. J. A. Hort a century and a half ago.

56 posted on 01/10/2015 4:27:22 AM PST by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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Wow! I would surely like to hear which parts he thinks are not “directed by the Holy Spirit”. That’s one slippery slope.


62 posted on 01/10/2015 6:30:38 AM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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