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To: FourtySeven
... NOT GARBAGE!

READ YOUR BIBLE, because it's a FACT !
Do you believe the Book of Jeremiah was written AFTER Jesus was born? What does your own Satanic Church's Encyclopedia say about the origins of Christmas?
Have you even searched Encyclopædia Britannica on the matter?
No, you obviously haven't.
You just believe whatever your deceived preacher puts in front of you.
But for those who really want to know the truth let's review the origins of Christmas:
87 posted on 01/02/2015 8:17:25 AM PST by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: Yosemitest

The self-loving arm of flesh. You epitomize it to a T.


91 posted on 01/02/2015 8:32:44 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Yosemitest

(And, you are a colossally lousy theologian. The scripture is not there to say whatever you can draw out of it as from a hat.)


92 posted on 01/02/2015 8:33:53 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Yosemitest

Today, tens of millions of beautiful trees, which COULD become huge, mature Douglas firs, spruce, balsams, or other kinds of conifers, and which COULD be used to build millions of homes, or produce resins, paper, and dozens of useful products, are instead cut down, then shipped via truck and rail to distribution points, then stood up, to have a base nailed to them, and sold to “Christians” to take indoors and decorate with orbs and bulbs.


Darn I can’t do either. I cut off my feet and gouged out my eyes years ago...


103 posted on 01/02/2015 9:13:32 AM PST by Idaho_Cowboy (Ride for the Brand. Joshua 24:15)
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To: Yosemitest

Talk about not reading something. You obviously didn’t read what I posted to you! The points you (or that article you posted) make are addressed by what I posted. Namely, the central point “learn not the way of the heathen”. The question you should be asking yourself, if you even want to pretend to be objective is, “what is God warning against when He says ‘learn not the way of the heathen?’”

He’s most certainly not saying “don’t do anything the pagans do”. He’s saying “don’t commit adultery against Me by committing idolatry”. Which is serving other gods, or taking them to be equal or superior to God.

From this understanding it’s clear that passages like Jer 10 are not warning against Christmas tree usage, rather they are warning against adopting pagan idol worship. Did you get that? *Idol Worship*, that is worshipping a tree or a statue or any “graven image” because one believes that statue or tree or image contains a spirit being inside it. That’s idolarty and that’s what passages like Jer 10 forbid. Here’s the rub though...

...no one (today, celebrating Christmas with a tree decoration) is worshipping the TREE! So the texts like Jer 10 don’t apply to the Christmas tree unless, like the article I gave you said, someone is literally bowing down to the tree and worshipping it like some god. (Or also as the article said if someone loves their Christmas tree more than they love God).

Now honestly, put down Alexander Hislop for a second and think on your own: do you believe that people are worshipping their Christmas trees? Bowing down and making sacrifices TO the tree itself? Think, THINK!

This same line of reasoning applies to claims such as Christmas itself is sinful because it is pagan or Easter, or any other such claim that relies on mere similarities in decorations to prove idolatry.

Also the mere fact (if it is) that Christmas is right around the time of some other pagan celebrations isn’t proof of anything sinister either, just proof that the pagan religion was destroyed and replaced by Christianity. Christ is victorious over all, including pagan religions themselves, and somehow this victory is bad? Somehow this supplantation and virtual elimination of paganism is evil, merely because it’s on (or near) the same day as the now dead pagan religion? Again, no one is worshipping “sol invictus” or whatever other forgotten old god you or Hislop use to justify your Grinch-like attitude. And that’s the POINT: a day isn’t bad in of itself, it’s what’s DONE on that day or date that’s “bad” (or good).

You don’t have to reply if you now realize the stupidity of this whole claim. If you do reply though, and continue to assert your original claim, then I can see no reason to reply to you further. Your mind will be known to be closed to reason at that point.


108 posted on 01/02/2015 9:32:39 AM PST by FourtySeven (47)
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To: Yosemitest
Today, tens of millions of beautiful trees, which COULD become huge, mature Douglas firs, spruce, balsams, or other kinds of conifers, and which COULD be used to build millions of homes, or produce resins, paper, and dozens of useful products, are instead cut down, then shipped via truck and rail to distribution points, then stood up, to have a base nailed to them, and sold to "Christians" to take indoors and decorate with orbs and bulbs.

Not really. These trees come from Christmas Tree Farms and are grown specifically for this purpose. This is no different from visiting a nursery in spring to pick out some tomato or zucchini plants that will grow for one season and then be tossed onto the mulch pile. My Christmas tree, when taken down, will be used to provide shelter for birds in winter and eventually return to the earth as mulch to nourish other plants.

138 posted on 01/02/2015 3:25:52 PM PST by NYer (Merry Christmas and best wishes for a blessed New Year!)
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