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Messiah—The Son of God?
Blue Letter Bible ^ | Mark Eastman

Posted on 12/23/2014 10:55:22 AM PST by redleghunter

"'I will declare the decree:' the LORD has said to Me, 'You are my son, Today I have begotten You.'" (Psalms 2:7)

One of the most contentious issues between modern day Jewish and Christian scholars is whether the Messiah would be the "Son of God." The Christian New Testament clearly indicates that Jesus believed he was the Son of God, and that the disciples believed this as well. However, most 20th century rabbis claim that the Messiah is simply a man.

In 1992 I had a discussion about the Messiah with a Jewish physician, a man who was a Torah scholar as well. He told me that virtually all modern rabbis believe the Messiah is going to be just a man. He will be great in wisdom and stature, but he will be just a man. He will not be the Son of God, nor will he be God in the flesh. He then went on to tell me that the belief that the Messiah is the Son of God was a Christian fabrication. He told me that there is no evidence from the Old Testament or the writings of the ancient rabbis that the Messiah would be the Son of God.

This denial among virtually all of modern Judaism of the "Sonship" of the Messiah, is widely held. However, this has not always been so. There is abundant evidence in the writings of the ancient rabbis, as well as the Apocryphal books, that the Messiah would indeed be the Son of God.

In 1992, powerful new evidence from the Dead Sea Scrolls was published that reveals the belief among first century mainstream Judaism that the Messiah was indeed the Son of God.

(Excerpt) Read more at blueletterbible.org ...


TOPICS: Apologetics; Evangelical Christian; Mainline Protestant; Theology
KEYWORDS: sonofgod
"The "Son of God" Fragment 4Q246"

"A portion of the Dead Sea Scrolls, called the "Son of God" fragment 4Q246,[12] we see an astonishing reference to a supernatural Messiah who is called the Son of God:

""He shall be called the Son of the God; they will call him the Son of the Most High...He will judge the earth in righteousness...and every nation will bow down to him...with (God's) help he will make war, and...[God] will give all the peoples into his power."

footnote:Biblical Archeology Review; November/December 1992, Michael Wise and James Tabor.

1 posted on 12/23/2014 10:55:22 AM PST by redleghunter
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To: daniel1212; GarySpFc; metmom; boatbums; CynicalBear; roamer_1; BlueDragon; WVKayaker; ...

Great piece from Blueletter Bible.org. Could only excerpt it so please visit site.


2 posted on 12/23/2014 10:57:41 AM PST by redleghunter (... we have a great High Priest who has passed through the heavens, Jesus the Son of God-Heb 4:14)
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To: redleghunter

Matthew 16:13-16 American Standard Version

13 Now when Jesus came into the parts of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, saying, Who do men say that the Son of man is?

14 And they said, Some say John the Baptist; some, Elijah; and others, Jeremiah, or one of the prophets.

15 He saith unto them, But who say ye that I am?

16 And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.


3 posted on 12/23/2014 10:59:40 AM PST by SaveFerris (Be a blessing to a stranger today for some have entertained angels unaware)
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To: redleghunter
My people perish from a lack of knowledge.

Hosea 4: 6

4 posted on 12/23/2014 11:10:28 AM PST by freedomson (Tagline comment removed by moderator)
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To: redleghunter

It’s no surprise the most of the Jewish leadership especially don’t believe. God did after all “set the aside” during this age of grace. The abandonment of the Jews is coming to an end very soon. This “dispensation of grace” as Paul called it will soon end and God will once again turn His full attention to the nation of Israel.


5 posted on 12/23/2014 11:21:34 AM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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“In 1992, powerful new evidence from the Dead Sea Scrolls was published that reveals the belief among first century mainstream Judaism that the Messiah was indeed the Son of God.”

And the Messianic/Completed Jews still believe that. Mr. GG2 being one of them.


6 posted on 12/23/2014 12:18:11 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: redleghunter
Isa 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.
Isa 9:7 Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even for ever. The zeal of the LORD of hosts will perform this.

They may not believe the Jesus of the New Testament is their Messiah but I would think they understand that the one who takes the seat of David would be the Son of God...

7 posted on 12/23/2014 12:31:18 PM PST by Iscool
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To: Georgia Girl 2
>>And the Messianic/Completed Jews still believe that. Mr. GG2 being one of them.<<

Praise God for that! Obviously the first believers were Jews and there have been many since. I had some friends that were Messianic Jews. They felt compelled and called to relocate to Israel and now live there.

8 posted on 12/23/2014 12:37:37 PM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: redleghunter

Biblical evidence that Jesus is the Messiah:

http://thedevineevidence.com/prophecy_jesus.html


10 posted on 12/23/2014 1:10:38 PM PST by Slyfox (To put on the mind of George Washington read ALL of Deuteronomy 28, then read his Farewell Address)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

Lets see!
1.Healed the blind.
2.Healed the lame.
3.Rose the dead.
4.Walked on water.
5.Cast demons out.
6.Healed spirits and minds.
7.Forgave sin.
8.Paid in his blood for our sin and more.
He is Yeshua Messiah and our soon coming King and a light onto the house of Israel.


11 posted on 12/23/2014 1:46:49 PM PST by lostboy61 (Lock and Load and stand your ground!.)
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To: Religion Moderator; Georgia Girl 2

In my haste to send something supportive to Georgia Girl 2 and her honorable husband, I posted a link and honestly confess I did not read it all. I thought it to be supportive but it was not. In fact it was insulting.

Please remove immediately.

Georgia Girl 2 my humblest apologies for posting that link. I truly did not read it all.


12 posted on 12/23/2014 2:18:02 PM PST by redleghunter (... we have a great High Priest who has passed through the heavens, Jesus the Son of God-Heb 4:14)
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I’m so happy for you as the only Jew in the world on the right path. I was with 2nd. Para IDF in 1973 on the Golan where were you? The State of Israel gives my a passport and calls me a son of Israel how about you? Funny thing I saw a lot of different color and types of Jews in Israel. I now feel so sorry that they are all not Jews after all like you. I have seen Jews like you! will not fight, will not carry a gun, will not stand up. Lets see was that in the death camps in Germany or Poland. I was there in 1970 how about you the one true Jew?


13 posted on 12/23/2014 2:21:00 PM PST by lostboy61 (Lock and Load and stand your ground!.)
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To: lostboy61; Religion Moderator

Please see the post above. I mistakenly posted that link. My apologies. I thought it to be a supportive link for Messianic Jews and did not read past the first paragraph.

Please accept my apologies.

The post should be removed very soon by the RM.


14 posted on 12/23/2014 2:23:42 PM PST by redleghunter (... we have a great High Priest who has passed through the heavens, Jesus the Son of God-Heb 4:14)
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To: redleghunter

Well it is better to read stuff first. But the article did start out nice and then descended into Hell. So we are good to go.


15 posted on 12/23/2014 2:33:35 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

Thank you.


16 posted on 12/23/2014 2:36:18 PM PST by redleghunter (... we have a great High Priest who has passed through the heavens, Jesus the Son of God-Heb 4:14)
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To: Religion Moderator

Please remove post #9.

Thanks


17 posted on 12/23/2014 2:37:13 PM PST by redleghunter (... we have a great High Priest who has passed through the heavens, Jesus the Son of God-Heb 4:14)
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To: redleghunter

another bump


18 posted on 12/23/2014 11:00:37 PM PST by free_life (If you ask Jesus to forgive you and to save you, He will.)
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Admin, RM is probably on holiday so if you can please remove post #9 as it was in error and very poor proof reading on my part.


19 posted on 12/24/2014 6:39:25 AM PST by redleghunter (... we have a great High Priest who has passed through the heavens, Jesus the Son of God-Heb 4:14)
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