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Pope Francis greets Curia for Christmas, and rips them to shreds
WDTPRS ^ | December 22, 2014 | Fr. John Zuhlsdorf

Posted on 12/22/2014 2:09:07 PM PST by NYer

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Each year it is customary for the Roman Pontiff to meet and greet members of the Roman Curia just before Christmas. The Pope gives an address. Often that address is a kind of “State of the Union”, describing things that occurred and prospect for the future. In 2005 Benedict XVI famously used the occasion to deliver one of the most important addresses of many modern pontificates. He spoke of the proper interpretive principles to apply to the Second Vatican Council.

Today Pope Francis also addressed the Curia. I just finished watching the video. It seemed to me, frankly, to be more like a Lenten retreat delivered to Jesuit novices than a Christmas greeting to seasoned churchman, his closest collaborators in his Petrine Ministry.

Francis went through a long list of sins during his prolonged examination of their consciences for them.

The list of the Curia’s spiritual sins? Here they are, as compressed by AP:

Pope Francis listed 15 “ailments” of the Vatican Curia during his annual Christmas greetings to the cardinals, bishops, and priests who run the central administration of the 1.2-billion strong Catholic Church. Here’s the list.

1) Feeling immortal, immune or indispensable. “A Curia that doesn’t criticize itself, that doesn’t update itself, that doesn’t seek to improve itself is a sick body.”
2) Working too hard. “Rest for those who have done their work is necessary, good and should be taken seriously.”
3) Becoming spiritually and mentally hardened. “It’s dangerous to lose that human sensibility that lets you cry with those who are crying, and celebrate those who are joyful.”
4) Planning too much. “Preparing things well is necessary, but don’t fall into the temptation of trying to close or direct the freedom of the Holy Spirit, which is bigger and more generous than any human plan.”
5) Working without coordination, like an orchestra that produces noise. “When the foot tells the hand, ‘I don’t need you’ or the hand tells the head, ‘I’m in charge.’”
6) Having ‘spiritual Alzheimer’s.’ “We see it in the people who have forgotten their encounter with the Lord … in those who depend completely on their here and now, on their passions, whims and manias, in those who build walls around themselves and become enslaved to the idols that they have built with their own hands.”
7) Being rivals or boastful. “When one’s appearance, the color of one’s vestments or honorific titles become the primary objective of life.”
8) Suffering from ‘existential schizophrenia.’ “It’s the sickness of those who live a double life, fruit of hypocrisy that is typical of mediocre and progressive spiritual emptiness that academic degrees cannot fill. It’s a sickness that often affects those who, abandoning pastoral service, limit themselves to bureaucratic work, losing contact with reality and concrete people.”
9) Committing the ‘terrorism of gossip.’ “It’s the sickness of cowardly people who, not having the courage to speak directly, talk behind people’s backs.”
10) Glorifying one’s bosses. “It’s the sickness of those who court their superiors, hoping for their benevolence. They are victims of careerism and opportunism, they honor people who aren’t God.”
11) Being indifferent to others. “When, out of jealousy or cunning, one finds joy in seeing another fall rather than helping him up and encouraging him.”
12) Having a ‘funereal face.’ “In reality, theatrical severity and sterile pessimism are often symptoms of fear and insecurity. The apostle must be polite, serene, enthusiastic and happy and transmit joy wherever he goes.”
13) Wanting more. “When the apostle tries to fill an existential emptiness in his heart by accumulating material goods, not because he needs them but because he’ll feel more secure.”
14) Forming ‘closed circles’ that seek to be stronger than the whole. “This sickness always starts with good intentions but as time goes by, it enslaves its members by becoming a cancer that threatens the harmony of the body and causes so much bad — scandals — especially to our younger brothers.”
15) Seeking worldly profit and showing off. “It’s the sickness of those who insatiably try to multiply their powers and to do so are capable of calumny, defamation and discrediting others, even in newspapers and magazines, naturally to show themselves as being more capable than others.”

Sort of, “Merry Christmas, you vain, hypocritical, funeral faces!”

Mind you, these are just the bullet points. Every point was explained, with citations, in the address of over 3100 words, which took about 32 minutes. There are 20 footnotes. HERE

The Holy Father then went around the room to greet all the Cardinals present.

Veteran Vatican watcher John Allen reported:

“I have to say, I didn’t feel great walking out of that room today,” one senior Vatican official said, who had been in the Vatican’s Sala Clementina for the speech and who spoke on the condition he not be identified.

“I understand that the pope wants us to live up to our ideals, but you wonder sometimes if he has anything positive to say about us at all,” the official said, who’s been in Vatican service for more than two decades.

For the record, this was an official who describes himself as an “enthusiast” over the direction being set by Pope Francis.

The body language on Monday among the cardinals and archbishops who make up the Vatican’s power structure suggest that reaction wasn’t isolated. There were few smiles as the pope spoke and only mild applause; since Francis delivered the address in Italian, it wasn’t because his audience didn’t understand.

Having watched the video, I too thought that the reception of the speech and, afterward, of the Pope himself as he went around the room, was muted and even tense.

One can only guess what fruits this examination of conscience will produce.  Time will tell.

On the other hand, Pope Francis also met with the workers and collaborators of the Vatican City State and addressed them. HERE  The meeting was held in the Paul VI audience hall.  It had a decidedly different feeling, although he told them that he had just addressed the heads of the curial offices.  He told all the workers to look at that text, to examine their consciences and to GO TO CONFESSION.

Francis used again the image of the Curia as a body that needs care, indeed, which is sick and needs remedies.  He then gave them, too, a list of 10 things that he wanted them all to “take care of… curare”.   Some of them were basic, and common sense items that lay people need to attend to.  It was the sort of thing that one might hope to hear in a parish pulpit.

Then, at the end, he said (to the workers, not the curial heads):

Non voglio finire queste parole di augurio senza chiedervi perdono per le mancanze, mie e dei collaboratori, e anche per alcuni scandali, che fanno tanto male. Perdonatemi.

I don’t want to conclude these words of greeting without asking pardon of you for shortcomings, mine and those of my collaborators, and also for some scandals, which do great harm.  Forgive me.

 


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To: Mrs. Don-o

Skirting the truth again? It was Francis who first brought up the topic on the plane ride back from Rio.

It was Francis who had the question brought up in the pre-SinNod survey that was distributed worldwide.

It was Francis who praised Kasper’s heretical proposition as “theology on its knees.

After being voted down by the bishops, it was Francis who ordered the proposal to be printed anyway.

It is Francis, who has said the topic will again be brought up at the next SinNod.


41 posted on 12/23/2014 8:36:54 AM PST by ebb tide
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To: Mrs. Don-o
Cardinal Raymond Burke himself, Lion of Orthodoxy, said Pope Francis does not favor changing this in theory or in practice.

And everyone knows how Francis has treated the good Cardinal Burke.

Did you know Francis sided with Kasper in Kasper's little spat with Mueller over Communion to adulterers?

42 posted on 12/23/2014 8:39:33 AM PST by ebb tide
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To: ebb tide
"Bringing up the topic" does not mean he wants the bishops to support it. It could be he wants the bishops to get all the controversy out into the open and soundly refute it.

Plenty of FReepers, including yourself and myself, have brought up, even posted, topics which we wanted to be picked apart and considered critically, and repudiated in whole or in part--- not endorsed whole hog.

And your previous statement, which was that Pope Francis is "a pope who is doing his best to sanction adultery" is untrue and ought to be retracted.

43 posted on 12/23/2014 8:44:42 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o ("The Church of the living God, the pillar and foundation of the truth." - 1 Timothy 3:15)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
Look at the trend that Francis has started. Aren't you proud of him?

Cardinal Marx: German bishops favor allowing Communion for divorced/remarried

Francis allows Kasper to continue to promote heresy; no reason to think he'll reprimand Marx.

44 posted on 12/23/2014 8:48:40 AM PST by ebb tide
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To: Mrs. Don-o
"Bringing up the topic" does not mean he wants the bishops to support it. It could be he wants the bishops to get all the controversy out into the open and soundly refute it.

That's a downright silly argument. Why not bring up incest or after-birth infancticide just to soundly refute it?

45 posted on 12/23/2014 8:54:51 AM PST by ebb tide
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To: Mrs. Don-o
And your previous statement, which was that Pope Francis is "a pope who is doing his best to sanction adultery" is untrue and ought to be retracted.

I will never retract a truth.

46 posted on 12/23/2014 8:56:56 AM PST by ebb tide
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To: marshmallow

The Pope criticized them for things like “working too hard” and “planning too much,” and “arrogantly exercising their power,” I guess unlike humble little flower strewing Francis himself.

There’s a Spanish saying: “Consejos vendo, pero para mi no tengo.” The means, lieterally, I’m selling advice, but I don’t have any for myself. He’s busy diagnosing faults in other people, but maybe he should look at himself and his own behavior, which is fracturing the Church and driving away faithful Catholics.

But progressives such as the Pope - and Obama _ are so convinced that they are morally in the right that thie never even occurs to them.


47 posted on 12/23/2014 12:49:25 PM PST by livius
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To: ebb tide

Burke has not complained about his reassignment or said it was a punishment, or a humiliation, or that it was imposed with malicious intent. I wish good Catholics would recognize Burke’s virtue and follow his example.


48 posted on 12/23/2014 1:43:46 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o (Point of information. AND "Burke for Pope".)
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To: ebb tide

I think Kasper and Marx are in error, and I think their legs are going to cut out from under them at the 2015 Synod. You watch.


49 posted on 12/23/2014 1:53:16 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o (Burke for Pope.)
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To: ebb tide
" Why not bring up incest or after-birth infancticide just to soundly refute it?"

Because they're not being proposed -- yet-- by certain German bishops, or popularized --- yet --- by the Political-Media Complex.

Marx and Kasper are going to be smacked down hard, and I think it's the Burke Five (Burke, Muller, Brandmuller, Caffarra, and de Paolis) plus the African bishops who'll lead the smackdown.

I can't wait.

50 posted on 12/23/2014 2:12:24 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o (Burke for Pope.)
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To: ebb tide

I didn’t ask you to retract a truth.


51 posted on 12/23/2014 2:12:56 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o (Burke for Pope.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
Because they're not being proposed -- yet-- by certain German bishops, or popularized --- yet --- by the Political-Media Complex.

It was Francis who first popularized it, as Pope and in front of international media. If Francis wanted to shutdown any and all talk of giving Holy Communion to adulterers, he, as Vicar of Christ, could do it on any day of the week with one simple pronouncement. Instead the sneaky Bishop of Rome floats the proposition in a worldwide questionnaire, allows Kasper to propose his "serene theology" to the bishops and even allows the heresy to be brought up for a vote. Although a majority of bishops voted in favor of the heresy (a further indication of the sad state of the Church), votes for approval did not reach the required quorum. Francis, however, would not and has not allowed Kasper's evil dream to die. Francis has already stated the evil propostion will come again at the 2015 SinNod. And Cardinal Burke will not be at that SinNod.

Never before has a pope put morality and the condoning of mortal sin up for a vote.

Marx and Kasper are going to be smacked down hard, and I think it's the Burke Five (Burke, Muller, Brandmuller, Caffarra, and de Paolis) plus the African bishops who'll lead the smackdown.

Don't kid yourself. Nobody is going to smack down anybody without Francis' approval and he's fully behind Kasper and his heresy.

52 posted on 12/23/2014 8:08:45 PM PST by ebb tide
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To: Mrs. Don-o

I’ve known for a long time that your concept of “truth” is far from mine. Anybody who can defend Francis’ promotion of Kasper’s heresy,... well, I’ll stop there.


53 posted on 12/23/2014 8:11:56 PM PST by ebb tide
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To: Mrs. Don-o
I wish good Catholics would recognize Burke’s virtue and follow his example.

I wish "good" Catholics would take these words of Cardinal Burke to heart:

Cardinal Raymond Burke said in an interview this week that it is “amazing” that those who have defended Catholic teaching and practice on withholding Communion from those in publicly “irregular” sexual situations, are being accused of “being against the Holy Father, and of not being in harmony with the Church.”

54 posted on 12/23/2014 8:37:39 PM PST by ebb tide
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To: ebb tide
"Anybody who can defend Francis’ promotion of Kasper’s heresy..."

Burke has said he has no evidence that Pope Francis wants to change the doctrine on divorce/remarriage. Do you know something he doesn't know?

Burke has repeatedly said he's amazed when people imply he's "against the Holy Father," when he's not! Let me give you a quote:

"Cardinal Raymond Burke said in an interview this week that it is “amazing” that those who have defended Catholic teaching and practice on withholding Communion from those in publicly “irregular” sexual situations, are being accused of “being against the Holy Father, and of not being in harmony with the Church.”

Do you think Burke is "against the Holy Father"?

55 posted on 12/24/2014 4:19:16 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o (Stand firm and hold to the traditions you were taught, whether by word of mouth or by letter from us)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
Do you think Burke is "against the Holy Father"?

I think the Holy Father is against Christ's own Words; so, "Yes".

56 posted on 12/24/2014 7:22:52 AM PST by ebb tide
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To: Mrs. Don-o
Marx and Kasper are going to be smacked down hard, and I think it's the Burke Five (Burke, Muller, Brandmuller, Caffarra, and de Paolis) plus the African bishops who'll lead the smackdown.

The retired Kasper (Cardinal Ratzinger/Pope Benedict XVI' archnemesis) has been given new life by Francis. Francis has placed Kasper on a pedestal to preach his heresy far and wide.

Marx has been handpicked by Francis to lead his Gang o' Nine.

It was Cardinal Burke who was smacked down hard, being removed from three significant positions of responsibility.

57 posted on 12/24/2014 7:43:42 AM PST by ebb tide
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To: ebb tide

Read my previous post again. You seem to have missed that I didn’t say Pope Francis would do the smackdown of Kasper and his cohort. I said Marx and Kasper are going to be smacked down hard, and I think it’s Burke, Muller, Brandmuller, Caffarra, and de Paolina, plus the African bishops who’ll lead the demolition tram.


58 posted on 12/24/2014 10:07:29 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o (Point of accuracy.)
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To: ebb tide
"Do you think Burke is "against the Holy Father"?...
"I think the Holy Father is against Christ's own Words"

Something you've not been able to prove with Francis' own words, so you're rather at a disadvantage there...

"...so, "Yes".

Well that's unfortunate, because now you're making out Burke to be a liar.

I'm sticking with Burke's version of the story. I have a great deal of respect for him.

59 posted on 12/24/2014 10:12:15 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o (Point of accuracy.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

I heard Cardinal Muller speak recently.
A serious but joyful man who has a wonderful sense of humor. He struck me as wholly dedicated to The Truth.


60 posted on 12/24/2014 12:14:27 PM PST by Ouchthatonehurt ("When you're going through hell, keep going." - Sir Winston Churchill)
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