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To: Colonel_Flagg

From the numbers verse:
23 The Lord answered Moses, “Is the Lord’s arm too short? Now you will see whether or not what I say will come true for you.”

You seem to be saying that since the boys met the firey furnace after Moses was dead, that any mention of subsequent miracles are off limits when analyzing this or any other particular ancient bible verse.

God’s message to Moses means that his power is not just for today. But for all eternity. I don’t think you would disagree with that statement.

God’s power is not just for the moment at hand, which seems to be what you are saying. God’s words to Moses applies to everyone in the future, including the three in the furnace in the future, doesn’t it?

If you don’t care for Joel’s messages, just don’t turn on the program and let God, and not man, sort it out.


131 posted on 12/17/2014 7:29:52 PM PST by Sasparilla
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To: Sasparilla

Osteen’s quote was that God told these things to Moses, who was dead before two of those events ever happened. That’s poor teaching, and placing people in need of salvation under such poor teaching should be alarming to anyone concerned with salvation.

As another poster told you, that might be God’s message to ME, in a later time, but it could not have been God’s message to Moses. He’s attributing error to God, who is incapable of error. That’s not good.

As I mentioned earlier, God can use anyone to get people’s attention, even Joel Osteen. However, according to everything I’ve been taught all those under whose ministry I have sat, Osteen’s message is incomplete, his prosperity gospel is heretical because it embraces idolatry, and he preaches a gospel not centered on Christ but rather on material well-being.

Christians are called to reject false teaching.

“Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine. For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.” - 2 Timothy 4:1-3

And no, I have no plans to be any part of Mr. Osteen’s ministry.


133 posted on 12/17/2014 7:41:04 PM PST by Colonel_Flagg ("Compromise" means you've already decided you lost.)
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To: Sasparilla

“If you don’t care for Joel’s messages, just don’t turn on the program and let God, and not man, sort it out.”

So Christians shouldn’t sound the alarm when sinners are being ushered to eternal destruction by a very public false teacher? I don’t think you can find much biblical support for that notion.


134 posted on 12/17/2014 7:41:58 PM PST by .45 Long Colt
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