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To: Sasparilla

Osteen’s quote was that God told these things to Moses, who was dead before two of those events ever happened. That’s poor teaching, and placing people in need of salvation under such poor teaching should be alarming to anyone concerned with salvation.

As another poster told you, that might be God’s message to ME, in a later time, but it could not have been God’s message to Moses. He’s attributing error to God, who is incapable of error. That’s not good.

As I mentioned earlier, God can use anyone to get people’s attention, even Joel Osteen. However, according to everything I’ve been taught all those under whose ministry I have sat, Osteen’s message is incomplete, his prosperity gospel is heretical because it embraces idolatry, and he preaches a gospel not centered on Christ but rather on material well-being.

Christians are called to reject false teaching.

“Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine. For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.” - 2 Timothy 4:1-3

And no, I have no plans to be any part of Mr. Osteen’s ministry.


133 posted on 12/17/2014 7:41:04 PM PST by Colonel_Flagg ("Compromise" means you've already decided you lost.)
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To: Colonel_Flagg

I didnt take his statement to be a literal “God was saying” as talking about a historic, contemporaneous event, or fact of a previous occurance. It seemed to me, as stated previously, my take was that God’s promises apply to all events, no matter when they occur, past, present, and future. It is not poor teaching. Gods power knows no date.

Would you say that what Joel said about the furnace would have been any different if he had mentioned instead any specific occurance where Gods promise to take care of his children happened in New Testament times, such as miraculous healings?

He was not using the statemnt you object to in a historic literal sense, but in a metaphorical manner.
Not enough to get my blood pressure worked up.

I have never sent Joel a dime, and have no future plans to do so. But, he is interesting.


150 posted on 12/17/2014 8:10:05 PM PST by Sasparilla
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