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Joel Osteen, Gosh . . .
Patheos.com ^ | December 17, 2014 | David Mills

Posted on 12/17/2014 4:32:23 PM PST by Gamecock

Not a shock: megachurch celebrity tv star preacher Joel Osteen doesn’t know the Bible, reports the clever and energetic Tristyn Bloom of The Daily Caller. (The story’s several weeks old but I just saw it so pass it on for those of you who hadn’t.)

In a Monday post to his verified Facebook page, Joel Osteen ministries, read: “God said in Numbers 11:23, ‘Moses, is there any limit to My power?’ He was saying, ‘Moses, you saw Me part the Red Sea, stop the sun for Joshua, keep three Hebrew teenagers safe in a fiery furnace, don’t you realize that I can bring water without rain?’ There’s no limit to God’s power.”

As of Friday afternoon, the post had over 317,000 likes and 52,000 shares.

One normally hesitates to criticize ministers from another tradition, but Joel Osteen perverts Christianity in a way that will keep people from Christ. He preaches a Christianity without a cross. As one commenter put it:

Joel Osteen is a motivational speaker who pretends to be Christian in order to make money. He and his wife live in a multimillion dollar mansion, and in return sell a gospel of false promises, bad theology, and gross consumerism. It is unsurprising that he fails to quote Scripture accurately, because adherence to Scripture has never been a priority of his.

What is truly unfortunate about him and his operation is that through their false teaching they mislead millions. I hope and pray for his repentance, before his final judgment and damnation.

I don’t know about “pretends.” I have no idea what Osteen thinks he’s doing. He does not speak as a Christian preacher but as a motivational speaker who exploits Christian language and Christianity’s continuing cultural authority to bring people (and their donations) in. There’s nothing like the message to the rich young ruler in his preaching, no take up your cross, not even a watch with me.

The Christian life is a constant struggle to move closer to Christ, against the flow of our natures. We’re swimming upstream. With God’s help, making progress, but only because He helps us keep pushing against the current. Osteen offers a pleasant ride on a warm spring day down a wide slow-moving river lying on a well-stocked raft. He presents this as if it were grace and not the easy choice of our fallen natures. “God wants you to do what you want to do” is not the Gospel.


TOPICS: General Discusssion
KEYWORDS: familybusiness; houston; joelosteen; osteen; televangelist; ybpdln
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To: Boogieman

Well first, one must be close enough to God to hear ‘his still small voice.’...other wise it could be the devil talking.


81 posted on 12/17/2014 6:27:02 PM PST by Kackikat
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To: Kackikat

Bet you no one here hates JO...

I don’t, anyway.

He’s still a religion profiteer with little provable Bible knowledge.


82 posted on 12/17/2014 6:27:47 PM PST by ExGeeEye (The enemy's gate is down...and to the left.)
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To: Kackikat; Gamecock; Boogieman
Anyone who criticizes God’s chosen men is an imposter...

bust out laughing

83 posted on 12/17/2014 6:28:09 PM PST by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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To: Kackikat

James 5:8 is working against your hypothesis. In that passage James is talking about patiently waiting for the rewards to come after Jesus returns. Trying to make that some type of justification for Osteen’s preaching “get it now” is twisting scripture and using it out of context.


84 posted on 12/17/2014 6:29:17 PM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: Kackikat
Nope. He deied Jesus. (CNN LARRY KING LIVE Interview With Joel Osteen Transcript)

Otherwise why would he apologize afterwards? (Joel Osteen Issues Apology). I know. He says he misspoke. Every preacher that has ever been on King was asked that question. And yet, one of the fundamental questions about Salvation is asked and he denies Jesus. Even Benny Hinn recognized this apostasy.

Do you also defend this charlatan when he says "Obama is a Christian, doing a good job."

What about his paling around with the lesbian Mayor of Houston who bared her fangs against real ministers of the Gospel? (Joel Osteen blesses Houston's new (gay) mayor Annise Parker.) Why did she not come after him? Because he believes openly practicing gay/homosexual people will be accepted into heaven.

His lack of fruit is out there. Let him with ears hear.

85 posted on 12/17/2014 6:33:51 PM PST by Gamecock (Joel Osteen is a preacher of the Gospel like Colonel Sanders is an Army officer.)
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To: Kackikat; Boogieman
Here's how your James 5 starts.

1Now listen, you rich people, weep and wail because of the misery that is coming on you. 2Your wealth has rotted, and moths have eaten your clothes. 3Your gold and silver are corroded. Their corrosion will testify against you and eat your flesh like fire. You have hoarded wealth in the last days.

You may read the Bible regularly but I'm sensing you don't understand it.

86 posted on 12/17/2014 6:34:12 PM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: Kackikat

James 5:1


87 posted on 12/17/2014 6:34:29 PM PST by kosciusko51 (Enough of "Who is John Galt?" Who is Patrick Henry?)
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To: CynicalBear

GMTA


88 posted on 12/17/2014 6:35:16 PM PST by kosciusko51 (Enough of "Who is John Galt?" Who is Patrick Henry?)
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To: Kackikat

If the message isn’t in line with the Gospel, it doesn’t matter how small and still it is, it’s still from the devil.


89 posted on 12/17/2014 6:36:21 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: Kackikat
I am a daughter of the King of Kings and Lord of Lords. I will spend eternity in heaven and I know that I know that I know....and I refuse to criticize the men or women who glorify God and spread the gospel.

But may I ask what do you know? Are you also a member of The Assembly of Yahweh, like the author of the EliYah.com website that you keep citing?

90 posted on 12/17/2014 6:36:32 PM PST by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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To: montag813

I love when these type of articles are posted. It means I can speak the truth about Olsteen and not get banned.

I can’t understand why everyone does not see this guy for the fraud that he is. There are few other preacher’s sons in the Houston are that are cashing in, too. I wonder why all of their fathers were Baptists.


91 posted on 12/17/2014 6:37:10 PM PST by VerySadAmerican (My love affair with an abuser is over. Support a third party.)
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To: Boogieman

92 posted on 12/17/2014 6:37:38 PM PST by Gamecock (Joel Osteen is a preacher of the Gospel like Colonel Sanders is an Army officer.)
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To: Gamecock

Okay, I am anything but religious, but I never understood why people go crazy over this Osteen guy. He is no different than any of the other TV preachers.


93 posted on 12/17/2014 6:39:19 PM PST by darkangel82
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To: Gamecock
Yup. The Bible is not about "get rich now" schemes for christians. It is not about about giving for the sake of getting wealthy. It does not promise job promotions/ fame and fortune for christians.
94 posted on 12/17/2014 6:39:35 PM PST by Moorings
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To: Alex Murphy

NO...I am a Christian, period. The Yahweh website had a the truth on that subject, so I used it... nothing more.

God has many names from the Bible, or didn’t you know that?


95 posted on 12/17/2014 6:40:13 PM PST by Kackikat
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To: kosciusko51

And within a minute of each other!


96 posted on 12/17/2014 6:40:30 PM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: Kackikat; Gamecock

“How would you know, because if you had a personal relationship with Jesus, then you would know what you are doing is evil.”

What Mr. Osteen is doing is very evil, he does not preach the plan of salvation, only about how wealthy and well off you can be if you follow Osteen’s feel good about yourself philosophy.


97 posted on 12/17/2014 6:41:15 PM PST by longhorn too
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To: Boogieman

ROFL

still small voice

Question: “What does it mean that God speaks in a still small voice?”

Answer: There is only one place in Scripture where God is said to speak in a “still small voice,” and it was to Elijah after his dramatic victory over the prophets of Baal (1 Kings 18:20-40; 19:12).


98 posted on 12/17/2014 6:42:24 PM PST by Kackikat
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99 posted on 12/17/2014 6:43:41 PM PST by Gamecock (Joel Osteen is a preacher of the Gospel like Colonel Sanders is an Army officer.)
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To: Alex Murphy; Kackikat

That’s a part of the Sacred Name Cult.


100 posted on 12/17/2014 6:43:54 PM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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