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Joel Osteen, Gosh . . .
Patheos.com ^ | December 17, 2014 | David Mills

Posted on 12/17/2014 4:32:23 PM PST by Gamecock

Not a shock: megachurch celebrity tv star preacher Joel Osteen doesn’t know the Bible, reports the clever and energetic Tristyn Bloom of The Daily Caller. (The story’s several weeks old but I just saw it so pass it on for those of you who hadn’t.)

In a Monday post to his verified Facebook page, Joel Osteen ministries, read: “God said in Numbers 11:23, ‘Moses, is there any limit to My power?’ He was saying, ‘Moses, you saw Me part the Red Sea, stop the sun for Joshua, keep three Hebrew teenagers safe in a fiery furnace, don’t you realize that I can bring water without rain?’ There’s no limit to God’s power.”

As of Friday afternoon, the post had over 317,000 likes and 52,000 shares.

One normally hesitates to criticize ministers from another tradition, but Joel Osteen perverts Christianity in a way that will keep people from Christ. He preaches a Christianity without a cross. As one commenter put it:

Joel Osteen is a motivational speaker who pretends to be Christian in order to make money. He and his wife live in a multimillion dollar mansion, and in return sell a gospel of false promises, bad theology, and gross consumerism. It is unsurprising that he fails to quote Scripture accurately, because adherence to Scripture has never been a priority of his.

What is truly unfortunate about him and his operation is that through their false teaching they mislead millions. I hope and pray for his repentance, before his final judgment and damnation.

I don’t know about “pretends.” I have no idea what Osteen thinks he’s doing. He does not speak as a Christian preacher but as a motivational speaker who exploits Christian language and Christianity’s continuing cultural authority to bring people (and their donations) in. There’s nothing like the message to the rich young ruler in his preaching, no take up your cross, not even a watch with me.

The Christian life is a constant struggle to move closer to Christ, against the flow of our natures. We’re swimming upstream. With God’s help, making progress, but only because He helps us keep pushing against the current. Osteen offers a pleasant ride on a warm spring day down a wide slow-moving river lying on a well-stocked raft. He presents this as if it were grace and not the easy choice of our fallen natures. “God wants you to do what you want to do” is not the Gospel.


TOPICS: General Discusssion
KEYWORDS: familybusiness; houston; joelosteen; osteen; televangelist; ybpdln
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To: montag813

I dislike the Osteen “Devotionals” too. However, my problem isn’t so much that those threads exist, it’s that we aren’t able to comment. Most of the closed caucus threads are full of heresy, yet we can’t discuss it. Lost people need to hear the truth!


21 posted on 12/17/2014 5:04:17 PM PST by .45 Long Colt
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To: bobby.223

Because they allow themselves to be fooled.


22 posted on 12/17/2014 5:06:02 PM PST by kingpins10
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To: Gamecock

I basically know nothing about him. When I saw the thread for some reason it piqued my attention.

When I read that he lives in a multi million dollar home, that was all I needed to know.

No person who serves the Lord should do it for profit. Nothing wrong with him living in a nice comfortable home but not a mansion.


23 posted on 12/17/2014 5:06:18 PM PST by yarddog (Romans 8:38-39, For I am persuaded.)
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To: Gamecock

24 posted on 12/17/2014 5:10:01 PM PST by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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To: Drango
2 Timothy 4:3-4 For the time is coming when people will not endure sound teaching, but having itching ears they will accumulate for themselves teachers to suit their own passions, and will turn away from listening to the truth and wander off into myths.

2 Peter 2:1-22 But false prophets also arose among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Master who bought them, bringing upon themselves swift destruction. And many will follow their sensuality, and because of them the way of truth will be blasphemed. And in their greed they will exploit you with false words. Their condemnation from long ago is not idle, and their destruction is not asleep. For if God did not spare angels when they sinned, but cast them into hell and committed them to chains of gloomy darkness to be kept until the judgment; if he did not spare the ancient world, but preserved Noah, a herald of righteousness, with seven others, when he brought a flood upon the world of the ungodly

Matthew 7:15 “Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves.

25 posted on 12/17/2014 5:10:24 PM PST by Gamecock (Joel Osteen is a preacher of the Gospel like Colonel Sanders is an Army officer.)
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To: Alex Murphy

Jesus said:

The Hatred of the World
John 15:
18”If the world hates you, you know that it has hated Me before it hated you. 19”If you were of the world, the world would love its own; but because you are not of the world, but I chose you out of the world, because of this the world hates you.…

Be careful.....


26 posted on 12/17/2014 5:10:39 PM PST by Kackikat
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To: hinckley buzzard

“Makes me think maybe he is on to something after all. “

Yes, being a false prophet.


27 posted on 12/17/2014 5:11:53 PM PST by HereInTheHeartland (Pants up; don't loot)
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To: yarddog

‘The love of money is the root of all evil’ NOT the money itself, nor having it...many of whom inherit it.


28 posted on 12/17/2014 5:12:55 PM PST by Kackikat
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To: Gamecock

How would you know anything about Jesus the way you crucify people?


29 posted on 12/17/2014 5:13:35 PM PST by Kackikat
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To: Alex Murphy

LOL


30 posted on 12/17/2014 5:14:44 PM PST by CatherineofAragon ((Support Christian white males---the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization.))
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To: Kackikat

It sounds like the Rev. believes “The lack of money is the root of all evil”.


31 posted on 12/17/2014 5:15:49 PM PST by yarddog (Romans 8:38-39, For I am persuaded.)
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To: Gamecock

Amen.


32 posted on 12/17/2014 5:17:17 PM PST by rabidralph
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To: yarddog
Search the keyword YBPDLN. You'll learn all about him. Go back far enough and you can read about him denying the exclusivity of Jesus.

His wife is a real work too:

Pastor's (Joel Osteen's)wife involved in flight disturbance
Victoria Osteen Ripped for Telling Church 'Just Do Good For Your Own Self'; Worship Is Not for God.'

That's her, on the left.


33 posted on 12/17/2014 5:18:41 PM PST by Gamecock (Joel Osteen is a preacher of the Gospel like Colonel Sanders is an Army officer.)
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To: Gamecock

How would you know, because if you had a personal relationship with Jesus, then you would know what you are doing is evil.


34 posted on 12/17/2014 5:19:02 PM PST by Kackikat
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To: grumpygresh

God.


35 posted on 12/17/2014 5:19:39 PM PST by Kackikat
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To: yarddog

Have you read Malachi Chapter 3, do that before you criticize.


36 posted on 12/17/2014 5:21:15 PM PST by Kackikat
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To: grumpygresh
Who exactly is Joel serving?

Does he agree that Jesus came in the flesh, died for propitiation of man's sin, and rose into life eternal?

(1Jn 3:23-4:3)
And this is his commandment, that we should believe in the name of his Son Jesus Christ and love one another, just as he has commanded us. All who obey his commandments abide in him, and he abides in them. And by this we know that he abides in us, by the Spirit that he has given us.

Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God; for many false prophets have gone out into the world. By this you know the Spirit of God: every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God, and every spirit that does not confess Jesus is not from God. And this is the spirit of the antichrist, of which you have heard that it is coming; and now it is already in the world.
You see the Resurrection is proof that Jesus is who He said He was/is/will-be: without Him coming in the flesh he didn't really die, and if he didn't really die then the resurrection is a lie, and that would make Him a liar and Christianity false.
37 posted on 12/17/2014 5:21:39 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Kackikat; Alex Murphy

The problem is the world LOVES Osteen!

They gobble up his books. They pay money to fill up stadiums to heard his heresy.

The man denied Jesus on Larry King. Why do people here defend him?


38 posted on 12/17/2014 5:22:11 PM PST by Gamecock (Joel Osteen is a preacher of the Gospel like Colonel Sanders is an Army officer.)
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To: Kackikat

Pot. Meet Kettle.


39 posted on 12/17/2014 5:22:48 PM PST by Gamecock (Joel Osteen is a preacher of the Gospel like Colonel Sanders is an Army officer.)
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To: Kackikat
Discerning false teachers is demanded of us. The path is narrow. Osteen's is wide.


40 posted on 12/17/2014 5:26:11 PM PST by Gamecock (Joel Osteen is a preacher of the Gospel like Colonel Sanders is an Army officer.)
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