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To: ealgeone

While you searched, it appeared you came up with “damning evidence.” In reality, you missed the most important sentence: “In other words, we must become an instrument in Mary’s hands for her to act in us and do with us what she pleases, for the greater glory of her Son; and through Jesus for the greater glory of the Father.”

Any believer can go before Holy Trinity, no questions asked. However, St. Louis is demonstrating Mary is an excellent model, as she was the first to recognize Jesus as the Messiah (at the Annunciation), and the only believer to be with him until the end. That is a pretty darn good example.

Regarding “To Thee do We Cry,” the next sentence, which you chose not to quote is really important. So, here it is for you (page 112 in my version, freely available from Google):

Meaning, that we more easily find salvation by having recourse to the Mother than by going to the Son — not as if Mary was more powerful than her Son to save us, for we know that Jesus Christ is our only Saviour, and in that He alone by his merits has obtained and obtains salvation for us ; but it is for this reason : that when we have recourse to Jesus, we consider Him at the same time as our Judge, to whom it belongs also to chastise ungrateful souls, and therefore the confidence necessary to be heard may fail us ; but when we go to Mary, who has no other office than to compassionate as as Mother- of mercy, and to defend us as our advocate, our confidence is more easily established, and is often greater.”

What St. Alphonso is trying to teach, is how people perceive and relate to the Blessed Mother. He quotes several saints, and some people whom I don’t recognize. However, please read above: not as if Mary was more powerful than her Son to save us, for we know that Jesus Christ is our only Saviour, and in that He alone by his merits has obtained and obtains salvation for us;


579 posted on 12/15/2014 2:03:40 PM PST by SpirituTuo
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To: SpirituTuo; ealgeone

Total blasphemy.


585 posted on 12/15/2014 2:11:51 PM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: SpirituTuo; CynicalBear; metmom; daniel1212; Gamecock; Salvation; Mrs. Don-o
While you searched, it appeared you came up with “damning evidence.”

There's no "appears to have come up with damning evidence"...it is damning evidence.

Here's more from St. Louis.

He's not just hoping or wishing for us...he's telling us we "have" to do this for Mary.

I'm sorry for catholics who believe these lies from the pit of Hell.

This opening line is a sure sign of a cult....secret information that was only given to St. Louis. No wonder it's secret...it's a pack of lies. The enemy is very adapt at mixing in a little truth with about three parts lies. He used the same trick with Eve. Amazing how many he has fooled using the same tactic.

1. Here is a secret, chosen soul, which the most High God taught me and which I have not found in any book, ancient or modern. Inspired by the Holy Spirit, I am confiding it to you, with these conditions:

Act for Mary

6. It all comes to this, then. We must discover a simple means to obtain from God the grace needed to become holy. It is precisely this I wish to teach you. My contention is that you must first discover Mary if you would obtain this grace from God.

11. (5) As in the natural life a child must have a father and a mother, so in the supernatural life of grace a true child of the Church must have God for his Father and Mary for his mother. If he prides himself on having God for his Father but does not give to Mary the tender affection of a true child, he is an impostor and his father is the devil.

WOW! SHEER UTTER BLASPHEMY!

49. 4. We must perform all our actions for Mary, which means that as slaves of this noble Queen we will work only for her, promoting her interests and her high renown, and making this the first aim in all our acts, while the glory of God will always be our final end. In everything we must renounce self- love because more often than not, without our being aware of it, selfishness sets itself up as the end of all we work for. We should often repeat from the depths of our heart: "Dear Mother, it is to please you that I go here or there, that I do this or that, that I suffer this pain or this injury."

50. Beware, chosen soul, of thinking that it is more perfect to direct your work and intention straight to Jesus or straight to God. Without Mary, your work and your intention will be of little value. But if you go to God through Mary, your work will become Mary's work, and consequently will be most noble and most worthy of God.

http://www.ewtn.com/library/Montfort/SECRET.HTM

598 posted on 12/15/2014 2:30:17 PM PST by ealgeone
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To: SpirituTuo; ealgeone
Meaning, that we more easily find salvation by having recourse to the Mother than by going to the Son — not as if Mary was more powerful than her Son to save us, for we know that Jesus Christ is our only Saviour, and in that He alone by his merits has obtained and obtains salvation for us ; but it is for this reason : that when we have recourse to Jesus, we consider Him at the same time as our Judge, to whom it belongs also to chastise ungrateful souls, and therefore the confidence necessary to be heard may fail us ; but when we go to Mary, who has no other office than to compassionate as as Mother- of mercy, and to defend us as our advocate, our confidence is more easily established, and is often greater.”

Do you really believe such ridiculous claims like that?

Jesus Christ died for our sins. Mary had a baby. Mary is dead. Jesus was raised from the dead to symbolize and to fulfill the promise to us that we, too, shall have eternal life.

The statement you made is found nowhere in Scripture, but is oft repeated within the cult of Catholicism... BUT IT HAS NO FOUNDATION IN TRUTH, and certainly is not found in Scripture. It is another lie from the pits of Hell designed to deceive and keep souls from the Truth! The Catholic religious training (catechism) excels in that!!!

The person the Catholic cult claims as the first pope (who clearly states here what stone is the cornerstone) even makes it perfectly clear. It is only later, when the catholic clergy realized they had no foundation in Scripture, that they made traditions a standard of the faith which is more powerful than the Word of God to the believers within the cult.

Mark 7: 6 He replied, “Isaiah was right when he prophesied about you hypocrites; as it is written:

“‘These people honor me with their lips,
but their hearts are far from me.
7 They worship me in vain;
their teachings are merely human rules.’

8 You have let go of the commands of God and are holding on to human traditions.”

9 And he continued, “You have a fine way of setting aside the commands of God in order to observe your own traditions! ...

Acts 4: 8 Then Peter, filled with the Holy Spirit, said to them: “Rulers and elders of the people! 9 If we are being called to account today for an act of kindness shown to a man who was lame and are being asked how he was healed, 10 then know this, you and all the people of Israel: It is by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom you crucified but whom God raised from the dead, that this man stands before you healed. 11 Jesus is

“‘the stone you builders rejected,
which has become the cornerstone.’

12 Salvation is found in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given to mankind by which we must be saved.” ...

... Hebrews 9: 24 For Christ did not enter a sanctuary made with human hands that was only a copy of the true one; he entered heaven itself, now to appear for us in God’s presence. 25 Nor did he enter heaven to offer himself again and again, the way the high priest enters the Most Holy Place every year with blood that is not his own. 26 Otherwise Christ would have had to suffer many times since the creation of the world. But he has appeared once for all at the culmination of the ages to do away with sin by the sacrifice of himself. 27 Just as people are destined to die once, and after that to face judgment, 28 so Christ was sacrificed once to take away the sins of many; and he will appear a second time, not to bear sin, but to bring salvation to those who are waiting for him.

628 posted on 12/15/2014 3:33:01 PM PST by WVKayaker (Impeachment is the Constitution's answer for a derelict, incompetent president! -Sarah Palin 7/26/14)
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