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To: terycarl; MamaB; EagleOne; Alamo-Girl
the discussion was concerning Catholics keeping the bible from the common folk...I merely stated that before the printing press in the 1500's...Bibles were out of the reach of virtually everyone because of their scarcity. I don't know how far back you traced your geneology, but if you had literate ancestors before the press was invented they were the exception to the rule....virtually no one could read......no books to read.

So, all those VAST ancient libraries of Alexandria, Timgad, Anatolia, Egypt, Greece, India, Iraq, Iran, Israel, Italy, Syria and others held what? A bunch of pretty pictures? That there were hundreds of thousands of writings going back long before the Christian era testifies that a lack of a printing press did not stand in the way of ancient peoples recording their histories, philosophies, religion, etc. nor of the ability of those to actually READ and write those documents. There are THOUSANDS of manuscripts of the Bible so it must not have been that expensive for people to have them to read, study and meditate on. Every Jewish synagogue had scrolls that they used for worship and teaching. What did you think the "scribes" did? Scribble?

I know that I've provided these facts to you several times before so I wonder how it is that you can come back and assert such an obviously false statement as if you never heard any different. What's the deal? You don't believe what I've shown you? If that's the case, then prove me wrong. Prove the historical evidence is wrong and you are right. If you can't, then you ought to reconsider making the same arguments when you ought to know they are false.

5,789 posted on 01/12/2015 10:54:49 PM PST by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: boatbums

Some people do not care to learn the truth. I just do not understand. I learned when I first started doing genealogy research, I had to do further research when I found parents being born after a child. When I do not understand something, I know how to type in words on the puter and many sites will pop up. Why can’t others do the same? With everything we have at our fingertips, we have no excuse to say things that have been proven wrong. It seems that so called tradition is more important than the truth.


5,791 posted on 01/12/2015 11:17:18 PM PST by MamaB
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To: boatbums
So, all those VAST ancient libraries of Alexandria, Timgad, Anatolia, Egypt, Greece, India, Iraq, Iran, Israel, Italy, Syria and others held what? A bunch of pretty pictures? That there were hundreds of thousands of writings going back long before the Christian era testifies that a lack of a printing press did not stand in the way of ancient peoples recording their histories, philosophies, religion, etc. nor of the ability of those to actually READ and write those documents. There are THOUSANDS of manuscripts of the Bible

there were, indeed, magnificent libraries in various cities in the world...but these were, in no way, comparable to your local public libraries....the average person did not patronize these facilities because he/she had no need to do so. 95+% of the people in the Roman empire were illiterate. The libraries were pretty much used by the elite, the wealthy, the teachers, the scribes. If you lived near where Christianity was developed chances were near 100% that you never even saw a library. Owning a book of any type was almost unheard of. Scribes, at that time, were professional people who read to you things that you needed to hear, wrote for you things that you wanted to communicate and carried out the communication business of that era. The Synagogues, of course, had scrolls and perhaps a few other written documents and peopple who could read and interpret them. The average person listened to, not read, the various printed documents.

think about it for just a moment and you will be able to understand the situation. All books were extremely rare and expensive because they were hand copied and treasured. Most people could not read because there was virtually nothing to read. Those who could read were those who made a living doing it.

I have no idea why you think that you have provided me with facts when common sense indicates that you are wrong. The reason that you cannot read chinese is that chimese books are not readily available for you to read and therefore you've never taken the time to learn to read them....the same with the people in those days....no books to read therefore no need to waste time learning to read books that weren't available......I'd venture to say that the vast majority of people in Jesus time never even SAW a book....

5,851 posted on 01/13/2015 8:33:49 PM PST by terycarl (common sense prevails over all)
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To: boatbums
That there were hundreds of thousands of writings going back long before the Christian era testifies that a lack of a printing press did not stand in the way of ancient peoples recording their histories, philosophies, religion, etc. nor of the ability of those to actually READ and write those documents. There are THOUSANDS of manuscripts of the Bible so it must not have been that expensive for people to have them to read, study and meditate on. Every Jewish synagogue had scrolls that they used for worship and teaching.

Well and truly said, dear sister in Christ!


5,867 posted on 01/13/2015 10:15:14 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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