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To: CynicalBear

I think you’re misunderstanding my question. In what sense is Jerusalem my mother when I wasn’t born there?

In other words, it can’t be the physical sense, since I wasn’t born there. So what does that leave us?


5,465 posted on 01/07/2015 4:17:28 PM PST by FourtySeven (47)
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To: FourtySeven
>>So what does that leave us?<<

That doesn't leave us anywhere. That leaves you at odds with what the Holy Spirit said in scripture. Not a good place to be.

5,469 posted on 01/07/2015 4:29:38 PM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: FourtySeven; CynicalBear
I think you’re misunderstanding my question. In what sense is Jerusalem my mother when I wasn’t born there?

In other words, it can’t be the physical sense, since I wasn’t born there. So what does that leave us?

OK, Nicodemus, not understanding that it's talking about the SPIRITUAL realities and the new SPIRITUAL birth.

Galatians 4:21-31 Tell me, you who desire to be under the law, do you not listen to the law? For it is written that Abraham had two sons, one by a slave woman and one by a free woman. But the son of the slave was born according to the flesh, while the son of the free woman was born through promise. Now this may be interpreted allegorically: these women are two covenants. One is from Mount Sinai, bearing children for slavery; she is Hagar. Now Hagar is Mount Sinai in Arabia; she corresponds to the present Jerusalem, for she is in slavery with her children. But the Jerusalem above is free, and she is our mother. For it is written,

“Rejoice, O barren one who does not bear; break forth and cry aloud, you who are not in labor! For the children of the desolate one will be more than those of the one who has a husband.”

Now you, brothers, like Isaac, are children of promise. But just as at that time he who was born according to the flesh persecuted him who was born according to the Spirit, so also it is now. But what does the Scripture say? “Cast out the slave woman and her son, for the son of the slave woman shall not inherit with the son of the free woman.” So, brothers, we are not children of the slave but of the free woman.


5,478 posted on 01/07/2015 6:17:47 PM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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