[SpirituTuo]

Well, you clearly believe those in Heaven are not a part of the mystical body of Christ.

Maybe you should consider the following passage from Revelation (5:8-14). Again from Tim Staples:

The Book of Revelation gives us an even better description of this communication between heaven and earth:

The twenty-four elders fell down before the Lamb, each holding a harp, and with golden bowls full of incense, which are the prayers of the saints … the elders fell down and worshipped (5:8-14).

These “elders” are offering the prayers of the faithful symbolized by incense filtering upward from the earth to heaven. And because they are seen receiving these prayers, we can reasonably conclude they were both directed to these saints in heaven and that they were initiated by the faithful living on earth. We also see this same phenomenon being performed by the angels in Revelation 8:3-4:

And another angel came and stood at the altar with a golden censer; and he was given much incense to mingle with the prayers of the saints from the hand of the angel before God.

The bottom line is this: Both the faithful on earth and our brothers and sisters in heaven (and let’s not forget our “cousins,” the angels) are all acting just as Catholics would expect. Believers on earth are initiating prayers which the saints and angels in heaven are receiving. Is this the necromancy condemned in Deuteronomy and Isaiah? Absolutely not! This is New Testament Christianity.

http://www.catholic.com/blog/tim-staples/praying-to-dead-folks

[CynicalBear]

>>we can reasonably conclude<<

And it didn't say it didn't happen right?

[xone]

Clearly not true, those in heaven are part of the mystical body of Christ, we aren't to pray to them. As for Staples' blog, your contention must be that the elders are passing out the prayers that they received from the saints on earth who had been praying to them. As we have no clue from the text who the elders are, in the context of what scripture teaches they are the prayers of the saints on earth to God and the symbology is incense. No where are Christians enjoined to render prayer to angels.

This is New Testament Christianity.

No this is Catholicism going beyond what is written...again.

[editor-surveyor]

Please note that there is no indication nor reason to believe that said “Elders” were humans, and by testimony in other chapters, they cannot be such, since there is but one resurrection unto life noted in God’s word.
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[Elsie]

And because they are seen receiving these prayers, we can reasonably conclude they were both directed to these saints in heaven and that they were initiated by the faithful living on earth.

Oh?

Lotsa concludin' goin' on there!