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To: MamaB
When I was growing up, I only knew 3 catholic families and we never talked about their beliefs. I am amazed at the junk they believe when they should be reading the Bible. I have learned a lot on these threads. Thanks y’all. Happy, Blessed New Year.When I was growing up, I only knew 3 catholic families and we never talked about their beliefs. I am amazed at the junk they believe when they should be reading the Bible. I have learned a lot on these threads. Thanks y’all. Happy, Blessed New Year.

MamaB, I respect everyone's opinion on this thread, but I am amazed how anyone could ignore over 2,000 years of history, many of the most dedicated and learned people who have ever walked the face of the Earth, read a book that THEY wrote, and come to your own conclusions as to what it meant....mind boggling to say the least.

4,628 posted on 01/01/2015 6:53:46 PM PST by terycarl (common sense prevails over all)
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To: terycarl; MamaB
Top 10 Most Wicked Popes

http://listverse.com/2007/08/17/top-10-most-wicked-popes/

1. Liberius, reigned 352-66 [Catholic Encyclopaedia]
2. Honorius I, reigned 625-638 [Catholic Encyclopaedia]
3. Stephen VI, reigned 896-89 [Catholic Encyclopaedia]
4. John XII, reigned 955-964 [Catholic Encyclopaedia]
5. Benedict IX, reigned 1032-1048 [Catholic Encyclopaedia]
6. Boniface VIII, reigned 1294-1303 [Catholic Encyclopaedia]
7. Urban VI, reigned 1378-1389 [Catholic Encyclopaedia]
8. Alexander VI, reigned 1492-1503 [Catholic Encyclopaedia]
9. Leo X, reigned 1513-1521 [Catholic Encyclopaedia]
10. Clement VII, reigned 1523-1524 [Catholic Encyclopaedia]

Top 10 Worst Popes in History

http://www.toptenz.net/top-10-worst-popes-in-history.php

1. Pope Alexander VI (1431 – 1503)
2. Pope John XII (c. 937 – 964)
3. Pope Benedict IX (c. 1012 – 1065/85)
4. Pope Sergius III (? – 911)
5. Pope Stephen VI (? – 897)
6. Pope Julius III (1487 – 1555)
7. Pope Urban II (ca. 1035 – 1099)
8. Pope Clement VI (1291 – 1352)
9. Pope Leo X (1475 – 1521)
10. Pope Boniface VIII (c. 1235 – 1303)

YOUR pope kissing the koran. Fits right in with YOUR Catechism of the Catholic church.

http://www.vatican.va/archive/ENG0015/__P29.HTM

841 The Church's relationship with the Muslims. "The plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator, in the first place amongst whom are the Muslims; these profess to hold the faith of Abraham, and together with us they adore the one, merciful God, mankind's judge on the last day."330


4,630 posted on 01/01/2015 6:58:37 PM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: terycarl; MamaB

The only ones ignoring Catholic church history are the Catholics.

The rest of us see it for what it is.


4,631 posted on 01/01/2015 6:59:19 PM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: terycarl

I do not need catholic input on what the Bible says. It is very understandable. I have had wonderful pastors over the past 70 years. I accepted Christ as an elementary school student. We had many wonderful men of God who stayed with us or visited over the years. What I have learned about Catholic beliefs is hard to believe. I have seen them pray to Mary and then people on here deny it. I have seen them bow to statues, etc when the Bible clearly teaches otherwise. My dad knew the Bible and I loved listening to him and the ministers who stayed with us or friends of my parents who visited. Catholics did not write the Bible, btw. When I was growing up, we went to church on Sunday morning, night and Wednesday night. Then when different churches had revivals, we attended those, too. I grew up in a small town and family frends/relatives invited us. One thing they all had in common was teaching directly from the Bible


4,638 posted on 01/01/2015 7:14:29 PM PST by MamaB
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To: terycarl
...read a book that THEY wrote, and come to your own conclusions as to what it meant....

Then just WHY are SO many upset with it's current leader?

After all; he WAS duly elect by a VERY holy group of men.

Do you guys want a RECALL vote by the members of this fine, religious organization??


If not then SHUT -- UP! and deal with the Leader you've got!

(A cleaned up Penn Jillette reference)

4,716 posted on 01/02/2015 4:57:12 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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