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To: aMorePerfectUnion
The “catholic” church began in the ad250 time frame. Paul was converted to Christ - not a church.

The Catholic church began when Christ said to Peter, upon this rock I will build my church. By the year 254, the Catholic church had gone through 22 popes., indeed,Paul was converted to Christ and along with Peter, became the foundation for the Catholic church....there is reference to the church as Catholic as early as the end of the first century.....but the official name is not important, it was the group, consisting of Christ and His Apostles which became known as Catholic and just when is irrelevant

4,623 posted on 01/01/2015 6:17:04 PM PST by terycarl (common sense prevails over all)
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To: Springfield Reformer; aMorePerfectUnion
Well, I guess you two have been warned. Are you ready to repent form your evil born again Christian beliefs?

:-)

4,624 posted on 01/01/2015 6:42:28 PM PST by Mark17 (I'm a new creation, I'm a soul set free, and the man I was, you no longer see. Praise Jesus)
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To: terycarl

Hey, it’s a start...
“The Catholic church began when Christ said to Peter, upon this rock I will build my church.”

Christ didn’t say church, He said gathering.
No evidence that it was the Catholic Church, as it exists today.

“By the year 254, the Catholic church had gone through 22 popes., “

Pope is not a Biblical office of the Christian Church. All offices are listed in the NT Epistles and pope isn’t there.

“indeed,Paul was converted to Christ and along with Peter, became the foundation for the Catholic church....”

The Apostles formed the foundation of the Christian Church.

“there is reference to the church as Catholic as early as the end of the first century..”

Catholic, meaning universal. Two and a half centuries later - about the time the Catholic Church (fully incorporating pagan syncretism) became established.

“but the official name is not important, it was the group, consisting of Christ and His Apostles which became known as Catholic and just when is irrelevant”

Unfortunately, as the church drifted into error, it came to power in Rome. It continued downhill from there. Fortunately, God has always reserved for Himself true believers. Praise to God.


4,625 posted on 01/01/2015 6:43:17 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion ( "I didn't leave the Central Oligarchy Party. It left me." - Ronaldus Maximus)
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To: terycarl
....there is reference to the church as Catholic as early as the end of the first century.....

Ah...

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Matthew 16:13-18
 
 
When Jesus came to the region of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, "Who do people say the Son of Man is?"  
They replied, "Some say John the Baptist; others say Elijah; and still others, Jeremiah or one of the prophets."  
"But what about you?" he asked. "Who do you say I am?"  
Simon Peter answered, "You are the Christ,  the Son of the living God."  
Jesus replied, "Blessed are you, Simon son of Jonah, for this was not revealed to you by man, but by my Father in heaven.   And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades  will not overcome it.    I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven; whatever you bind on earth will be  bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven."

 

 


4,715 posted on 01/02/2015 4:50:58 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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