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Why is it many FRoman Catholics seem so incapable of seeing others without placing them in tidy boxes with labels on the outside? Neither SR nor I "pledged" ourselves to the reformers. All we've been trying to do is show the reformers were NOT the originators of the doctrines of sola Scriptura and sola fide but that these were clearly taught IN scripture and were held by many of the very first church "fathers". How is it you can just ignore all the quotes and references that have been posted which proved that?

It seems to me there is hypocrisy in your first question as you use a label of your own choosing, "FRoman Catholics."
It seems to me the boat on which you have booked passage is anchored to the theology of the so-called reformers through Sola Fide and OSAS doctrines. You appealed to Martin Luther so to Luther you can go. You have no authority to teach me any doctrine. Should you choose to reveal the truth about the religious group with whom you assemble I will address their doctrine.
It seems to me your puzzlement at the inadequacy of the quotes and references to which you refer to effect a change in the reader shows they are insufficient to prove the case, perhaps even to yourself.

You've been around here long enough to have figured out "FRoman Catholics" are Roman Catholic FReepers. Did you seriously imagine I made that up?
It seems to me that you just did what you accused me of doing "hypocritically" in your point #1. My passage is booked on the Jesus round-the-universe-for-eternity cruise. It's awesome that brave Christians throughout time have dared stand up to the elitist religious leaders when they have strayed from the truth. God continues to use such faithful men and women.
I'm puzzled??? Nope, it's more than clear that many of the early church fathers understood and exhorted their disciples to hold to the authority and sufficiency of sacred Scriptures (sola Scriptura) to the point that, if they taught anything about the Christian faith which could not be proved by Scripture, they were to be ignored and the quotations demonstrated that truth.
Any change affected in FR readers will not be because of arguments you nor I present but from how the Holy Spirit touches each heart that is ready and prepared to receive the truth as it is presented. I've already been convinced of the gospel of the grace of God which gives to us eternal life through faith alone in Jesus Christ alone to the glory of God ALONE. That you continue to niggle about minor points and words shows that it may be your OWN convictions that are questioned.

>>It seems to me the boat on which you have booked passage is anchored to the theology of the so-called reformers through Sola Fide and OSAS doctrines.<<

Luther's doctrine?? I think more like Irenaeus (130 - 202).

"We have learned from none others the plan of our salvation, than from those through whom the gospel has come down to us, which they did at one time proclaim in public, and, at a later period, by the will of God, handed down to us in the Scriptures, to be the ground and pillar of our faith." [Alexander Roberts and James Donaldson, editors, Ante-Nicene Fathers (Peabody: Hendriksen, 1995) Vol. 1, Irenaeus, “Against Heresies” 3.1.1, p. 414.]

Or maybe the doctrine of Cyril.

"This seal have thou ever on thy mind; which now by way of summary has been touched on in its heads, and if the Lord grant, shall hereafter be set forth according to our power, with Scripture proofs. For concerning the divine and sacred Mysteries of the Faith, we ought not to deliver even the most casual remark without the Holy Scriptures: nor be drawn aside by mere probabilities and the artifices of argument. Do not then believe me because I tell thee these things, unless thou receive from the Holy Scriptures the proof of what is set forth: for this salvation, which is of our faith, is not by ingenious reasonings, but by proof from the Holy Scriptures." [A Library of the Fathers of the Holy Catholic Church (Oxford: Parker, 1845), "The Catechetical Lectures of S. Cyril" Lecture 4.17.]

Or maybe it was Gregory of Nyssa (335 – 395)

"The generality of men still fluctuate in their opinions about this, which are as erroneous as they are numerous. As for ourselves, if the Gentile philosophy, which deals methodically with all these points, were really adequate for a demonstration, it would certainly be superfluous to add a discussion on the soul to those speculations. But while the latter proceeded, on the subject of the soul, as far in the direction of supposed consequences as the thinker pleased, we are not entitled to such license, I mean that of affirming what we please; we make the Holy Scriptures the rule and the measure of every tenet; we necessarily fix our eyes upon that, and approve that alone which may be made to harmonize with the intention of those writings." [Philip Schaff and Henry Wace, editors, Nicene and Post-Nicene Fathers (Peabody: Hendriksen, 1995) Second Series: Volume V, Gregory of Nyssa: Dogmatic Treatises, "On the Soul and the Resurrection", p. 439.]

Wait, maybe it was John Chrysostom (349 – 407)

Regarding the things I say, I should supply even the proofs, so I will not seem to rely on my own opinions, but rather, prove them with Scripture, so that the matter will remain certain and steadfast. [John Chrysostom, Homily 8 On Repentance and the Church, p. 118, vol. 96 TFOTC.]

Or maybe you should credit Basil (330 - 379)

What is the mark of a faithful soul? To be in these dispositions of full acceptance on the authority of the words of Scripture, not venturing to reject anything nor making additions. For, if ‘all that is not of faith is sin’ as the Apostle says, and ‘faith cometh by hearing and hearing by the Word of God,’ everything outside Holy Scripture, not being of faith, is sin. [Basil, The Morals, p. 204, vol 9 TFOTC]

The hearers taught in the Scriptures ought to test what is said by teachers and accept that which agrees with the Scriptures but reject that which is foreign. [Basil, Moralia, 72:1.]

Maybe Augustine (354 - 430)

If anyone preaches either concerning Christ or concerning His church or concerning any other matter which pertains to our faith and life; I will not say, if we, but what Paul adds, if an angel from heaven should preach to you anything besides what you have received in the Scriptures of the Law and of the Gospels, let him be anathema. [Augustine, Contra litteras Petiliani, Bk 3, ch. 6.]

Neither dare one agree with catholic bishops if by chance they err in anything, but the result that their opinion is against the canonical Scriptures of God. [Augustine, De Unitate Ecclesiae, 10.]

For among the things that are plainly laid down in Scripture are to be found all matters that concern faith and the manner of life. [Augustine, On Christian Doctrine, II, 9.]

And don't forget Hippolytus (170–235)

There is, brethren, one God, the knowledge of whom we gain from the Holy Scriptures, and from no other source… so all of us who wish to practice piety will be unable to learn its practice from any other quarter than the oracles of God. Whatever things, then, the Holy Scriptures declare, at these let us look; and whatever things they teach, these let us learn. [Hippolytus, Against the Heresy of One Noetus, 9.]

I think if you are going to give credit you should give credit where credit is do wouldn't you agree? I think when Catholics want to denigrate those who first promoted Sola Scriptura they should denigrate those who first started the idea don't you think?