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To: Dutchboy88
Oh, my. You have continued to promote a lie, here. I did not deny that Jesus told the disciples to give the incredibly good news to all nations and baptize in the Name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. You added the term "water" to the text. A dangerous, dangerous error.

False; do you affirm or deny that the LORD Jesus Christ commanded his Jewish Apostles to teach all nations and baptize them with water in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit ? Yes or no ?

3,312 posted on 12/27/2014 3:52:40 PM PST by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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To: af_vet_1981
Thus the "church" of Rome is basically invisible in Scripture. But I can point you to churches (from Calvary chapels to Reformed to conservative Baptists to some holiness Pentecostals) that hold Scripture as the supreme standard as the wholly inspired assured and accurate word of God, preach salvation by grace thru purifying faith which is counted for righteousness, and is confessed in baptism by immersion, and who take part in the Lord's supper, and ordain (normatively married) men as pastors, and whose fruit is far more conservative than the overall fruit of Rome.

This is progress. You left out Independent Fundamentalist Baptists but I assume you include them. Do you include Pentecostal groups that believe the LORD Jesus Christ did not command the Jewish Apostles to teach all nations and baptize them with water in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit ?

3,315 posted on 12/27/2014 4:04:29 PM PST by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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To: af_vet_1981
And for the record (and before you ask again) before this you widely asserted that as i reject paedobaptism then it seem that i hold all the Protestants are in error, and then that most Christians belong to denominations that practise infant baptism, and were once again shown to be in error.

IIRC, I wrote "Most Christians belong to denominations that practise infant baptism" from a link. You countered that a majority of what you term American Protestants do not now practice infant baptism. Both points can be true, but yours only if you relegate Baptists as Protestants. Surely you did not hold that view whilst a member of an Independent Fundamental Baptist church. Historical Protestants believed in infant baptism and supported the execution of AnaBaptists believed in believer's baptism.

I suppose the tie that binds the alliance is to be antiCatholic.

3,317 posted on 12/27/2014 4:30:02 PM PST by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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To: af_vet_1981
"...do you affirm or deny that the LORD Jesus Christ commanded his Jewish Apostles to teach all nations and baptize them with water in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit ? Yes or no ?"

I absolutely DENY that the text reports Jesus saying that the eleven Jewish disciples (soon to be apostles) must baptize newly made disciples with water. Rather the text says in the "name of the Father and the Son and Holy Spirit." Do you have a reading impairment? This is like the fourth time I have said this.

It is your Roman cult which has added the term "water" to the text, just as it added a number of other things to the text (Peter is the first Pope, indulgences, purgatory, veneration of Mary, sacerdotalism, genuflecting, rosary beads, the sacraments, etc.) It is Rome which has promulgated the man-made religion. We ask only to return to the message of rescue described in the Bible.

3,363 posted on 12/28/2014 8:12:04 AM PST by Dutchboy88
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