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To: ealgeone

“Sooooo....to be sure we understand......the pope has spoken ex-cathedra, from the chair of peter, we can count these on one hand,”

You can? I think the pope has spoken ex cathedra many times. People - even Catholics - make the mistake of thinking it only happens in infallible statements because that was part of the definition of Papal Infallibility.

“So we can just dismiss these as irrelevant teachings??”

Is that what I said?

“I wonder what other catholics have to say about this?”

I doubt you do. And if you ask you’ll probably forget to include that part where I said you had to compare it to the totality of Catholic teaching to know it’s importance. Facts, they get in the way of Protestant anti-Catholics.


2,406 posted on 12/20/2014 2:44:55 PM PST by vladimir998
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To: vladimir998; metmom; CynicalBear; Elsie
>“Sooooo....to be sure we understand......the pope has spoken ex-cathedra, from the chair of peter, we can count these on one hand,”<

You can? I think the pope has spoken ex cathedra many times. People - even Catholics - make the mistake of thinking it only happens in infallible statements because that was part of the definition of Papal Infallibility.

You do understand ex-cathedra.....? Right? Or do I have to provide that for you also?

Catholic sources indicate he has spoken ex-cathedra either three times or two times...two of these both involve Mary.

There have been 3 instances of an officially declared Papal Infallible doctrine. The first was in 1854, when Pope Pius IX declared the doctrine of the Immaculate Conception (The blessed Virgin Mary was conceived in St. Anne's womb free from original sin), then in 1870 at the first Vatican Council when the doctrine of Papal Infalliblity was officially declared to be true, and then in 1950 by Pope Pius XII when he declared the doctrine of the Assumption (the blessed Virgin Mary was assumed body and soul into Heaven).http://www.catholicbible101.com/papalinfallibility.htm

Seeing how your first premise, that the pope has spoken ex-cathedra many times has again been proven wrong, I discount the rest of your post.

Amazing catholics don't know their stuff.

2,417 posted on 12/20/2014 3:12:38 PM PST by ealgeone
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