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To: redleghunter
The latter is what Catholics do with Mary. The former example is evidenced in NT epistles.

The wording of a prayer is irrelevant, if you ask me to pray for your sick daughter, you have done to me exactly what we ask Mary to do. Please, Mary, pray for us, now and at the hour of our death....that's the Hail Mary.

2,188 posted on 12/19/2014 3:40:26 PM PST by terycarl ( common sense prevails over all)
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To: terycarl

I don’t know how many turns of this you want to do. It has been admitted by Roman Catholics on this thread that they indeed offer prayers up to departed saints and Mary.

By you taking a prayer request is not the same as me offering YOU a prayer. There’s the difference.

I also asked for an example of OT or NT people praying to entities other than God. No one piped up on that because all the instances are negative and involve prayers to other gods and not God.


2,255 posted on 12/19/2014 7:44:03 PM PST by redleghunter (... we have a great High Priest who has passed through the heavens, Jesus the Son of God-Heb 4:14)
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To: terycarl
The wording of a prayer is irrelevant, if you ask me to pray for your sick daughter, you have done to me exactly what we ask Mary to do.

Except that MARY IS DEAD, son!

2,312 posted on 12/20/2014 4:10:06 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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