[ealgeone]

I stand by my post; that you for re-posting it. I might add that the apparent logical difficulty disappears completely if you recognize the fact that Mary will lead one devoted to her to Christ, as she has many.

John 6:65

And He was saying, "For this reason I have said to you, that no one can come to Me, unless it has been granted him from the Father."

[Elsie]

And He was saying, "For this reason I have said to you, that no one can come to Me, unless it has been granted him from the Father."

HERETIC!!

What it MEANS is...

And He was saying, "For this reason I have said to you, that no one can come to Me, unless it has been granted him by my MOM!!!"

[annalex]

no one can come to Me, unless it has been granted him from the Father

The role of Mary is to lead one to Christ and that is so because the Father wills it to be so. You are imagining the Father resisting Mary's prayers? Why would he do that?