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Is Prayer/Veneration/Worship to Mary Biblical?
self | 12-14-14 | ealgeone

Posted on 12/14/2014 11:57:21 AM PST by ealgeone

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To: spacejunkie2001

I pass two Mary statues on the way to McDonalds and will silently pray a Hail Mary for each one. Usually on the way back, too.


21 posted on 12/14/2014 12:18:13 PM PST by steve86 (Prophecies of Maelmhaedhoc OÂ’Morgair (Latin form: Malachy))
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To: knarf

Yeoman’s work that is done here every Sunday and is as boring and erroneous as ever. What a waste.


22 posted on 12/14/2014 12:18:42 PM PST by miss marmelstein (Richard III: Loyalty Binds Me)
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To: The_Reader_David; ealgeone

“Christian practices” essentially ended early in the second century, as noted by Irenaeus, and HIppolytus in their writings.

This is when the paganism of human nature began to form nicolaitan churches on a grand scale. Constantine’s ‘church’ is simply the most grotesque example. Its all in the Bible, where Yehova condemned it. ( for catholics, that means “Biblical.”)

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23 posted on 12/14/2014 12:19:25 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Montana_Sam

>>The tenor of your argument is combative,<<

I know this was not directed at me but you are wise, as this has clearly raised hackles on me (and I am a lost Catholic, even!).

I shall withdraw from this discussion as I have referred it to those who are both more knowledgeable and wiser than I.


24 posted on 12/14/2014 12:20:23 PM PST by freedumb2003 (AGW: Settled Science? If so, there would only be one model and it would agree with measurements)
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To: freedumb2003

Then I contend you are dissing God Himself by worshipping a human being, praying to her etc.

Jesus said ‘I am the way the truth and the life, no one comes to the Father BUT BY ME’. (not Mary)

The veil was torn at Christ’s crucifixion wherein we no longer needed a human high priest as Jesus Christ became our High Priest.


25 posted on 12/14/2014 12:20:28 PM PST by spacejunkie2001
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To: freedumb2003
I can't understand how anyone could think that simply asking someone for help who carried Jesus around in her womb for nine months and on her hip for a few years would somehow constitute "worship."

Jesus gave us a mother while he was impaled on the Cross. And we are just supposed to ignore her role?

26 posted on 12/14/2014 12:22:54 PM PST by Slyfox (To put on the mind of George Washington read ALL of Deuteronomy 28, then read his Farewell Address)
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To: .45 Long Colt; 353FMG

>> “Why waste your time praying to a dead sinner who needed the same grace for salvation that you need? Why not go boldly before the very throne of grace?” <<

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The answer to this is deceptively simple:

One can pray to the demon that answers to “Mary” without risking being rebuked for anything by the Holy Spirit.

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27 posted on 12/14/2014 12:26:50 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor

The spirit behind praying to Mary and dead “saints” certainly isn’t the Holy Spirit, so it must be demonic.


28 posted on 12/14/2014 12:30:20 PM PST by .45 Long Colt
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To: Slyfox

Mary has no role; presently she sleeps “under the altar.”

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29 posted on 12/14/2014 12:30:49 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: 353FMG
mary's dead ... she cannot pray

Just because catholics SAY she's alive doesn't make it so.

30 posted on 12/14/2014 12:32:03 PM PST by knarf
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To: spacejunkie2001

Do we also “dis” God Himself by worshipping another human being, His Son, Jesus Christ, made man and sent to this world to atone for the sins of mankind?


31 posted on 12/14/2014 12:32:04 PM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: ealgeone
two minutes hate even on Sunday... Merry Christmas
32 posted on 12/14/2014 12:33:32 PM PST by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -w- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: DuncanWaring

Jesus Christ is wholly God and human. Worthy of worship.

Mary is human....you’re not equalizing the two, are you?


33 posted on 12/14/2014 12:34:40 PM PST by spacejunkie2001
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To: miss marmelstein

chapter and verse on the erroniousity


34 posted on 12/14/2014 12:35:47 PM PST by knarf
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To: steve86; spacejunkie2001
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>> "I pass two Mary statues IDOLS on the way to McDonalds ..." <<

35 posted on 12/14/2014 12:36:03 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Slyfox; freedumb2003
I keep wondering about what Jesus is thinking when somebody disses his momma.

I wonder how Yah'shua feels when people
diss His Birth on His Feast of Tabernacles.

And instead celebrate it on the Pagan feast
of the birth of Semiramis' son: Tammuz.

shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
36 posted on 12/14/2014 12:36:57 PM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your teaching is my delight.)
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To: spacejunkie2001

Certainly not.

That’s why we worship God and only respect Mary.


37 posted on 12/14/2014 12:37:30 PM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: editor-surveyor

Good point; as equally effective as praying to the Golden Arches.


38 posted on 12/14/2014 12:37:50 PM PST by spacejunkie2001
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To: UriÂ’el-2012
Jack Chick has been SO slammed for pointing that out to us ...

shalom

39 posted on 12/14/2014 12:40:02 PM PST by knarf
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To: DuncanWaring

I mean this with all due respect; why would you pray to someone you ‘respect’? Where in God’s Word does He tell us to pray to anyone but Him or His Son?

What other people do you respect and do you pray to them?

I humbly recommend reading the Bible thoroughly as your eyes will be opened. The Catholic church does not advocate reading it for yourself, I know.


40 posted on 12/14/2014 12:40:53 PM PST by spacejunkie2001
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